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Old 09-05-2000, 10:46 AM
ManndingoNUPE ManndingoNUPE is offline
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Doggystyle82,

I totally agree with you on the Pan Hellenic thing. MIP is a travesty, and there have been more instances of underground pledging since it's inception. I wasn't in the Bond at the time, but from what I understand, it was sorta rammed down the throat of not just Undergrads, but grads as well. I would have to disagree though with the whole "paper vs. pledge" thing coming about because of MIP. This has been around for a long time. I know brothers who pledged back in the 70's who tell me that this is an issue that is not new, and didn't come about because of MIP. Granted it has made it worse. But everyone thinks that they pledged harder than everyone else. You "Sons of Blood and Thunder", say that you pledge the hardest, the Spinxmen think that they pledge the hardest, and the Sigmas think the same. My thing is, we get bogged down in this "who pledged harder", My bloody xyz chapter pledged the hardest, we was on line for 12 weeks, and you were on for 6 so I pledged harder than you, that's silly to me. I would like to create subject where everyone can tell what they have done to change the current MIP process. Who have you contacted at Nationals, what petition has your name and membership number on it. What proposal have you written up. That's my thing. We all agree that MIP is not working. I just get tired of us complaining about it, and not doing anything to change it.

To my Ice Cold brother,

There are some things that we agree on such as that MIP is wrong. I appreciate you carnifying your words on pledging/the civil rights struggle. And to answer your question, no I don't grip up just anyone. I don't grip anyone whom I don't know. To me my grip is very special, and I reserve it for those brothers whom I know and love.

I don't think that you can tell me what my founders wanted and what they didn't any more than I can. Although I am in possession of papers dating back the early 20's and 30's in which founders and members of my great Klan speak about paddling, and other various activities associated with pledging.

Let's just say, that I also believe that they wouldn't be too happy with this MIP thing either. But I also think that they would be appalled at some of the practices that were done in the name of Kappa.

As far as Kappa not being open to everyone, that is true. Just because you have the money, doesn't mean that you should gain entrance. This is precisely why I am very vocal about intake and whom we bring into our beloved Bond. If I don't think that you will be an asset to my frat, or my chapter, you don't get my vote (period). Being a member of Kappa Alpha Psi Fraternity, Inc. is a privilege and a honor, not an entitlement.

MN


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