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Originally posted by Optimist Prime
was the guy a fraternity brother? The atricle doesn't make it clear if it even happened at their house.
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You're right, although it does say, "A party at Lamda Chi Alpha," or something very similar. That inplies, along with the fact that the assault occurred (upstairs) in someone's room, that they were in some type of fraternity living unit.
There are a few questions in my mind, like someone who asked how the alleged rapist could hold a girl down while putting on a condom (although it's possible that she was too scared to try to resist or get away). Second, when she yelled "Stop" and he sat up, how much time does it take to dress in a hurry and get away -- and what was he doing while she was dressing for her "escape"? Was he to afraid at that point to try to keep her there?
There are some unanswered questions.
I CAN understand how this girl might end up at the party without her parents knowledge. I used to do it all the time. And, when I was in school there were a number of high school workshops (especially during summer session) where young students are in from all over the state, and one one occassion a few high school girls, looking for beer, ended up at the house where a number of Delts were living for the summer. Nothing happened that I know of in that instance -- but it certainly could have.
Still, as I mentioned in my earlier post, a lot of people weren't thinking. Including the victim.
Finally, while this sounds like a clear sexual assault, and I do believe that "no" always means no, I'm not quite ready to say that in some very minute minority of cases, the victim (female or male) can't bring part of the problem on themselves.
The comment about walking into a party naked and not "asking for it" is absurd -- unless that person in mentally ill. I'm for prosecuting sex offenders to the fullest extent of the law, but reality has to come into the picture somewhere.
Does that mean they "deserve" to be raped. Of course not, but they have actively contributed to the problem. If this young woman was raped, as it appears she was, her reported actions leading up to the assault certainly didn't help her situation any.
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By the way, what the heck is the deal with the other woman who invited the victim upstairs for a drink. Was she part of a conspiracy? Had she left? Why? If she didn't leave, why didn't she help?
More questions.