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Old 04-17-2003, 07:24 PM
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I've done a little cuttin' and pastin' here!

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Originally posted by BSUPhiSig'92
We do purchase kegs with house funds and most of us drink
Um, isn't it against most (if not all) policies to use house/chapter money for the purchase of alcohol?

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Originally posted by BSUPhiSig'92 We've never seen alcohol as an essential way to achieve
this goal and I have completely banned its use and even presence with the
pledges.
...Alcohol is involved with our house on the weekends, but
is strictly optional.
So does this mean that when your chapter is throwing a party (keg included), your pledges aren't invited? That's not nice. . .

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Originally posted by BSUPhiSig'92 I know I am legally responsible for anything that could go wrong
with pledging I would never support forced drinking
He alluded to being a law student. . .I didn't expect a future lawyer to say that.

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Originally posted by BSUPhiSig'92 The house budget, with the pool of dues comes to the following, 9,000
per semester for rush, 9,000 for parties, 1,000 for philanthropy, 2,000 for
house upkeep.
Dang, that's a lot of partying!!!

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Originally posted by BSUPhiSig'92 So, I have two questions for you. Your answer is not confidential. State U.
officials or law enforcement officers might see it.

"As President and a brother I have vowed to hold secret the things that take place in our brotherhood . . . good and bad. Secrecy is something that each of us holds very dear and we are all very disappointed if something gets out that should have remained within the brotherhood. I would clearly tell you anything that is public information, but as for things that take place amongst members of our house, I will not break the oath which I so willingly gave."

[1] In the past four years, has your chapter been accused of or found
responsible for any act of hazing, as State U. defines hazing?
If the answer was YES, wouldn't that be public knowledge and not secret? If they were actually charged, found guilty, and put on probation (or other restrictions) wouldn't that be noted by the university and therefore be easily verifiable? If the answer was actually NO, I think the president could have said that without breaking any sort of secrecy oath. What do they do when rushees ask something like "do you guys haze?" Do they say "Well, we took an oath of secrecy, etc.?" I felt like he purposefully (and obviously) dodged that one

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Originally posted by BSUPhiSig'92 [2] As State U. defines hazing, is your fraternity engaging in any form of
hazing directed toward the current pledge class or any of its members?
Once again, if the answer was a true NO, how can that violate an oath of secrecy? Wouldn't that be a question you would be proud to answer NO to?

AND. . .didn't you also take an oath to uphold and abide by your fraternities ideals and values?


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Originally posted by BSUPhiSig'92 Whenever the pledges are around the house together our pledge instructor,
myself and our vice president are required to be there the entire time.
Did that sound like an unusual requirement to anyone else but me? Do you trust your brothers (and your pledges to stand up for themselves) that little? Or do you teach your pledges to do what a brother says, and therefore you CAN'T ensure that the pledges will stand up for themselves against a brother, drunk or not?

I just wanted to point those things out. Maybe I'm too analytical, but I enjoy it.
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