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Old 03-27-2003, 01:56 AM
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Re: Re: Get out the fire estinguishers on this one...

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Originally posted by Cream
100,000 NYC liberals protest a war that is perceived as unjust. Many Americans and people around the world are protesting this war.

What does that have to do with being grateful or ungrateful?
Ungrateful for what?

What does OUR kids going off to war to eliminate saddam mean? There are plenty of New Yorkers in the military.

Lifesaver, why are you being so hostile regarding New Yorkers? I really don't get it. September 11th was an attack on the United States of American, not just New York City. Remember the Pentagon and Pennsylvania? It was attempt to undermind the American way of life, the American ecomony, and the American government.
I get what you are saying. I am not purposfully trying to be hostile to new yorkers. I like NY. I have visited several times now. I'll be back up there this summer. My best friend in the world lives there (Staten Island) But fundamentally, me and quite a few other people I know didnt take the 9/11 attacks as an attack on the US and a way of life. New Yorkers always carry themselves with the sense of bravado that NYC is the center of the world and took such ownership of the 9/11 events that it seemed to happen to them, not us. (You have to admit that the then and post 9/11 coverage was 90%NYC and 10% DC and Pennsylvania.) Me and a lot of other people I know are Texans first. Yeah, were us citizens too, but the 9/11 attacks didnt happen here. I didnt know anyone who died in them. So while I know the terrorists' attemps were to make it a strike on the US way of life, We just didint take it a that. My life went on pretty much the same, except for the extra 35 minutes for security when I fly. Nothing else changed for me.

People can protest whatever thay want in my book. Its what our forefathers died to protect. What I am saying is the ungrateful comment comes from the above paragraph. THe 9/11 attacks happened to you. Not me. All of September of 2001 and post was "How could this happen? Who's responsible? We gotta go get them." And ya know, the country was with ya'll on that. And now that we are "taking care of it" its protrayed on TV that ya'll think going after the peeps who had a hand in this one way or another is unjust. (Granted the links between IRAQ and 9/11 seem now to be tenous AT BEST, I have faith that the links exist and we'll be shown them, in due time. If not, I'll eat this entire post.) After seeing the protest on TV I was like, so they readily accepted the love, support and assistance of the entire country then, but now, when push comes to shove, were wrong for trying to keep it from happening (to you or someone else) again? WTF? That I dont get. Its like my friend Julie. She dated Mike all through college, had the perrenial fights, shed tell us how much she hated him, and he was an SOB. THree weeks later, she was back with him. This happend for 4 years till they got married in November. And they both lost a lot of credibility with the rest of us.

Peeps be upset that 9/11 happend, but dont seem to wanna do anything about it if it makes us a bit squeamish or uncomfortable. That I dont get. Were doing this also to teach the fundamentalists that OK, yeah, you can sneak in and set of a bomb in the us, but we wont take it and be scared. Much liek how bush I admitted last nigh tthat he "underestimated" Saddams reaction to the gulf war aftermath (they all thought hed be overthrown) Al-Queda underestimated the US. Ok, be a terrorist, but be prepared to have the govmt that supported you be overthorwn, and you finances cut off.

I am not a war monger. I hate it. I would rather have all our troops back safe and sound and not having to do this. But do I want another 9/11 or worse, HELL NO. If we gotta start with Iraq and do the same to 15 other countries too? Lets roll. I'm game.
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