Poor ole Jeb

[librasoul22]

Originally posted by pbpck
I will respond to you, lionlove and a quote by librasoul.

"And America is not the greatest nation ever" -LibraSoul Show me any other nation who would send relief to a country that they were at war with. Show me another country who shows the human compassion that we do, leading tolerance campaigns in a time of war.

WOW. This quote right here made my jaw drop when I first read it. Do you REALLY, TRULY, HONESTLY believe that this is true? What because you see on CNN that our military is dropping food rations over the nations we are at war with? Because you see our troops escort a few displaced natives? WOW.

Do you realize that every day, America bombs these nations? Do you realize how many of THEIR civilians have been killed because America is trying to "protect" them? Do you realize that things like Agent Orange actually occured? The argument you have presented here is far too naive for words. I am astounded.

Show me another country who offers such economic mobility and opportunity.

Um...do you have a few hours? Because I can tell you right now that America is NOT the only nation with a strong economy. Again, naive.

Show me any other country who allows it's citizens such freedom!

What you mean like freedom of speech? Freedom to offer a dissenting opinin right? Oh okay. Because I have noticed that some people have issues with that.

We have become the international police and lender of the world.

I was NOT aware that this was something to brag about. In becoming the so-called "police" of the world, do you understand that we are TAKING AWAY someone else's freedom? Does this make sense to you? Especially since you think that freedom is one of the things that make THIS country great. Our role is not so much to POLICE as it is DOMINATE. And believe me, if we keep that up, we will have more enemies than we know what to do with.

We are a young country who in current history has surpassed the economic thrust of any other country in so short a time. It saddens me deeply to see a US citizen state what you have just said. And who exactly do you believe is the greatest nation in the history of the world? How could you pledge the allegiance and sing the national anthem with this belief? I am not trying to attack you, but understand the rationale behind your thought process. Understand why you would question the greatness of your own country? Or is it just for argument's sake?

Trust me, when I argue for arguments sake, I tend to pick topics that a far more lighthearted.

Why would I question the greatness of my own country? Because it ain't all that great! Simple! This country was founded in such a horrible way. You never answered my question. Do you think Columbus discovered America? Do you believe in Thanksgiving with the "Indians" and the Pilgrims? If so, you are sadly mistaken. That is why this country isn't GREAT. Maybe you are sheltered and have never been exposed to injustice. Maybe you just don't realize what people who are not you have to go through every day.

Believe me I am grateful just like you to be living here. But as long as I have a right provided by YOUR beloved consititution, I am going to speak my mind. And from what I have learned about and lived through in this country, not much good will come out.

I would like to question what LibraSoul would do in dealing with terrorist acts as she stated that war is not a necessary evil. If our country abstained from any wars, I highly doubt that our country would maintain the level of international power and respect it has today.

Well this is a whole 'nother topic. But I firmly believe that we would not have "terrorist attacks" if we did not bully other nations on a daily basis. I do think that something needs to be done about this particular attack. You can't erase it by saying woulda, coulda, shoulda. I do think that bin Laden and his cohorts need to be brought to justice. But if the United States wants to erase terrorism, then we need to stop messing with soverign, independent nations.

znteke, you were right. This is a one sided argument on this board. I am surprised though, how many liberal mided people there are on this board as I find that most greeks are rather conservative.

Well I guess that erased THAT stereotype didn't it? Funny how that works. And actually this is not a one sided argument. That is an oxymoron. Being that you and I have differing opinions...that is TWO...that makes it a TWO sided argument. Please, just because people disagree with you, don't get pouty.