Can I get some advice?

[VandalSquirrel]

Originally Posted by KappaSig123

Well, first off I think they like me overall. I'm just very nervous about the entire process and was curious if a shy guy like myself would fit in, and if I would be judged for not being a social butterfly at this point?

Second, yeah I agree that it takes two to tango so I'm not just calling all girls hoes and holding men in a higher manner. Since it sounds like you feel very strongly about womans rights how about you give me some credit for coming out and saying that I disagree with randomly hooking up with women and objectifying them. I mean lets get real, if you were in a frat or sorority you know exactly what type of guys/girls I'm talking about. They are at every college in America. This sounds like a shock to you or something?

Can you stop arguing over petty things like this and actually help me out with my original question? I'm not asking about hooking up with girls, but rather if I'd feel comfortable in a frat

Seriously, you think this is an argument? I'm just responding to what you're putting out there. It is hard to give someone credit for disagreeing with randomly hooking up with women or objectifying them when more than once they've referred to women as hoes and sluts. If you can't see the hypocrisy in that I'm sorry. Furthermore it isn't about women's rights, as many of the men who actively participate in fraternity life and this board do not refer to women this way because they are classy gentlemen.

Unlike you I am an initiated member of an International Greek organization so getting saucy with me Bernaise and accusing me of being shocked is deflecting from your issue. There are people all over with self esteem and substance abuse issues (men and women) or who make poor choices, greek, non-greek, not even in college and so on and it truly has nothing to do with. If you're against treating women poorly why would you want to be in an organization you claim members refer to women in that way, regardless of you being shy? If all you see them doing is getting drunk and exposing themselves to STDs and who knows what, why do you want to be there? You may not be a good fit for this particular group of men at this time, which is common and not the end of the world.

You also may want to stop referring to it as a frat, some people find that offensive for whatever reason.