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Old 06-27-2008, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by jon1856 View Post
Nate;
You may wish to compare gun violent and gun related deaths between the USA and the rest of the modern world/G-8.
Nate, BTB, I was taught my gun safety and shooting skills by a former US Army Major in a NRA class.
I was a member of the NRA and I know its' history. Today it has strayed a long way from its founding.
I have no problems with guns per se. It is with people who own and operate them.
There should be a reason to have one. Owner should know all about it, how to operate it safely, how to
use it safely, and how to keep it safe. However, I do not see any kind of reason for any civilian to own or have in
their possession any kind of "military" weapon. One does not hunt with a fully auto, 30 mag, AK-47.
Nor does one need a .50 cal snipers rifle.
Yet, the NRA says one does. One of the reasons I am no longer a member. And I support gun regulations.
It is, after all, very much like risk management. "Crimes of the ignorant" can cover many sins.
Jon, do you really believe that gun violence in America is because of guns, and not because of violent attitudes in this country?

Also, it is generally pretty difficult and expensive to attain and possess "military" weapons. For the sake of others, lets be clear that I'm talking about actual AK-47's or actual fully automatic AR 15's. Those are assault rifles. I am NOT talking about AK-47 or AR 15 modeled semi-automatic rifles with similar magazine capacity. People who oppose gun rights consistently and purposefully deceive the public on this distinction.

How many criminals are going to shell out a few thousand dollars for a MP5 and go through the hassle of owning it legally? Not many. It simply isn't that big of an issue.

Further, I have a problem when people begin to tell me what I "need." I don't need a 6000 sq ft. home, and I don't need a BMW 7 series. I don't think this these things should be taken out of my grasp, however. I don't need an enormous SUV that consumes a lot of energy and poses a "danger" to other people because of it's size and nature of operation, but I don't think they should be banned. At some point, you may have to get additional licensing for such a large vehicle. Additional licensing...that sounds familiar.
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