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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS
It obviously isn't as easy as you think.
A lot of people are out there spreading lies/misrepresentations/misunderstandings about firearms. Thus, if I think I spot some, I'm more than willing to point them out.
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This is why I edited my post. This isn't a gun control debate. I agree with the right to bear arms--as long as those who are pro and con aren't misrepresenting the truth. I never said that gun carriers are crazy people who want to shoot up the world just because they can legally carry a gun. I know that most gun carriers rarely use their gun or have one for hunting (which goes back to my previous post).
I simply disagree with guns where the law currently forbids them. I said that in certain contexts (i.e. home, school, work) guns increase the violence potential because everyone wants to protect "what's theirs" and it decreases the ability for altercations to end without gunfire.
Therefore, the law forbids them in certain places for a reason.
Among those reasons:
1. People who own guns do not shoot up random restaurants if the server pisses them off. However, the likelihood of gun violence increases with the frequency in which gun access converges with people's daily interactions with others. That's based on years of qualitative and quantitate research on gun violence in neighborhoods, homes, and schools.
2. The above includes already motivated offenders (who weren't found in background checks--no surprise) who now have a legal reason to have their gun at school--spend less time hiding their gun and more time focusing on what they plan on doing with it.
2. Everything else I said in my previous posts.
This is a circular discussion because my point of reference will always be different than yours. That's fine.[/QUOTE]
1. I'd like to see any particular research you're referring to. I suspect you may be speaking in generalities, but if there is a specific study you took note of I'd like to know about it. There is also research showing that violence has decreased in areas where gun ownership for purposes of self defense is encouraged. I also highly suspect that there are also other variables in many of these studies which may disqualify them from usefulness in this discussion.
2. I've seen no support for such an argument. If you argue that potential killers may use concealed carry on campus rights, I'd agree with you. My point is that the prohibition of concealed carry on campus won't prevent such people from going forward with their plans. All it does is prevent those who respect the law from protecting themselves.
You're right that this is a circular discussion. I'm not writing because I want to win this argument, I'm responding because I don't want your assertions to go uncontested, considering this is a very popular topic with a lot of people having unformed opinions.
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