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Old 08-23-2005, 11:52 AM
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Originally posted by CarolinaCutie
This is a good point. I still do not agree that a dry pledge period is necessarily the answer, but I do see how pledges might get in over their heads in partying without the help of the brotherhood.



It was a joke between DSTCHAOS and I, lighten up. Not to mention that "it's his thread, so whatever he says in his thread is on topic" is incredibly poor logic.

No, it's not hazing at all. New members are given a new member pin at their pledging ceremony which they can wear with a dressy outfit, at any time where the members would normally be wearing their badges. Phi Mu also has a new member ribbon which may be worn on a daily basis to class, work, etc. As we have seen in a recent thread on GreekChat, some campuses utilize these ribbons more than others. The ribbons are given with guidelines on where you may and may not wear them (ie, do not wear them to a bar or fraternity party), and girls MAY wear them every day if they choose. They are designed to indicate their status as a new member so they may show pride in the organization (remembering that they likely do not have very much other paraphenalia to denote their membership). If I were to see a new member without her ribbon on, she would not be chastized; I probably wouldn't even notice.

Your example is ridiculous and is nowhere near to the truth- it serves no purpose. It is not hazing because A. it follows my organization's official protocol and B. it is not a requirement for membership. This is how it works in the NPC.

MysticCat, I am with ThetaPam once again... the basic PREMISE of requiring a pledge to wear a pledge pin is harmless. And if a national organization has this requirement in their pledge program, I do not fault them for it. BUT you always have to consider what individual chapters will do to bastardize the rules and turn any tiny inch into a hazing mile. Requiring pledges to wear their pin in the shower, pin it to their underwear, humiliating them when they show up without it, etc... Granted, it's always a slippery slope. An idiot chapter can turn ANYTHING into hazing. But the pledge pin has definitely been used as a gateway in the past.
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