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Old 07-27-2005, 05:19 PM
TristanDSP TristanDSP is offline
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"We didn't vote about whether Rosa Parks got to sit on the front of the bus or not"

So, there's a hill that has a giant cross on it down here in SD, and a bunch of atheists have been trying to have it taken down since 1989. The land the cross is on has been disputed for sometime, and yesterday, in a special election, we voted 75% to 25% to transfer the cross to the federal gov to maintain it.

Now, this Civil Rights lawyer named McElroy keeps saying this isn't an issue for the voters to decide, it's the court's. He backs that up by saying:

"We didn't vote about whether Rosa Parks got to sit on the front of the bus or not,"

Ok, comparing something that happened back then, when people of color didn't have the same civil rights as whites, to a dispute thats cost millions in taxpayer dollars that a few atheists are complaining about is assinine. To say this isn't a matter of the people just shows how contradictory some of these civil rights lawyers really are

San Diego.......clouding the corrupt, incompetent government and operations with "we have hot girls and nice beaches".

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Voters Overwhelmingly Approve Initiative To Save Cross

Wed Jul 27, 1:17 PM ET

Supporters of the Mount Soledad cross celebrated Tuesday after voters overwhelmingly approved a ballot initiative aimed at preserving the monument by transferring it to the federal government.


But the fight over the controversial monument may not be over.

"We didn't vote about whether Rosa Parks got to sit on the front of the bus or not," said James McElroy, attorney for a resident who sued the city over the cross' presence on city land 16 years ago, beginning a protracted and complex legal battle.

McElroy vowed to challenge the issue in court yet again.

"This will be resolved in the courtroom where it deserves to be resolved and not in front of the voters," McElroy told the media.

City Attorney Michael Aguirre has also warned that it would be unconstitutional for the city to transfer the cross to the government, because it would be done primarily to preserve a religious symbol.

Despite the potential legal snarls, supporters of Proposition A were all smiles after election returns gave the measure an easy victory -- even though it needed approval from two-thirds of voters.

With all 721 precincts counted, Proposition A had support from 75.9 percent of voters.

"It's humbling," said Phil Thalheimer, one of the Proposition A campaign leaders.

"I never would have expected these types of numbers," Thalheimer said. "I hoped for it, and anticipated it but, in my heart I didn't think we'd do this well."

Thalheimer said the issue went across party and religious lines, and was a "unifying piece for San Diego."

The City Council placed the measure on the ballot in May after a signature-gathering effort organized by a group called San Diegans fnr the Mount Soledad National War Memorial.

The transfer was proposed by two San Diego-area congressmen as a way to prevent the cross' removal from the La Jolla hilltop.

Federal permission for the transfer was included in a spending bill signed by
President George W. Bush.

Supporters are hoping Tuesday's big win at the polls will end the 16-year legal dispute, which began when resident Philip Paulson sued the city.

Paulson argued that the cross' presence on public land violated separation of church and state provisions in both the U.S. and California constitutions.

Judges twice ruled that the sale of the land to the Mount Soledad Memorial Association, which maintains the site as a veterans memorial, was unconstitutional because one group was favored over another.

San Diego voters in November rejected a ballot measure, Proposition K, that would have authorized another sale of the land in an effort to correct the consitutional violations.
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