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I am not sure that this post will be read since the thread is old as dirt, not sure how/why it got ressurrected but I am goin to speak my mind anyway....
Many have stated that they have a problem with M.I.P. for various reasons be it they want people to get their a$$es kicked, they believe the quality of new members has dropped, it has caused divisiveness, Neos don't know anything about the orgs., etc... So what is being done about it?
I believe there is a difference between pledging and hazing, and NO the Iota's legal bias should not be discredited because if the national orgs disregarded the hazing laws there would no longer be an XYZ fraternity/sorority. Is there not a way that M.I.P. can be molded to ensure that new members know ALL the information they are supposed to, both national and chapter history, traditions, etc?
And I do feel BGLO's sometimes miss out on potential great members due to the hazing reputations that they have. One not wanting to be subjected to humiliation, beatings, and the like is not a form of snobbery but self respect. It is my opinion (and notice I say opinion) any self respecting person would not let themselves get their a$$ beat so they can be "made", nor should any org that strives for the excellence that they claim desire a member that is so quick to sacrifice their integrity.
From reading this entire thread, I think a clarification between pledging and hazing needs to be made. And the reality maybe that there can't be a "standard" process throughout the country due to state, local, and university hazing laws. That is not to say that important information, traditions, songs, etc. cannot be learned, but a new method of delivery may need to be sought out.
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