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Old 04-25-2005, 11:03 AM
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Originally posted by Beryana
And from what I have beent told, 'High Services' are very similar to Roman Catholic (I'm assuming that is what you mean by 'catholic'). HOWEVER, there are still GREAT doctrinal differences (the Eucharist being the main one with valid Holy Orders being another) which makes the Anglican Church Protestant and not Catholic.
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As I recall reading, back in the 60s before I was born, Paul VI and Canterbury agreed that the argument over Transubstantiation v. Real Presence was an exercise in semantics and that in essence both positions meant precisely the same thing.
I further recall JPII saying that the Cramner ordinations were probably invalid but that since the Oxford movement of the mid-nineteenth century virtually all CofE priests and bishops had insured the validity of their orders via conditional reconsecration and reordination through Orthodox and Old Catholic lines of Apostolic succession. American Episcopal clergy who could likewise demonstrate Apostolic succession were recognized by Rome as well. Most Anglican priests are considered valid but not in communion with Rome. Which brings us to another interesting point. A few years back JPII invited Anglicans who professed belief in the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist to receive the Sacrament in RC masses when no Anglican church was reasonably convenient. These points were confirmed to me by the late Basil Cardinal Hume, OSB when I was studying in England and would from time to time serve his Mass at Westminster Cathedral and also by Fr Tracy SJ and Fr Beattie SJ provincial superiors of the Jesuits where I used to serve the Latin High Mass at Farm Street Church (the Church of the Immaculate Conception, Jesuit HQ for England).
Cardinal Hume used to say that Anglicans were not really Protestants but were "seperated bretherin" and not seperated by all that much. He went on to say that reconcilliation beter served Christ's intentions than confrontation since the price of redemption was paid by Jesus for all, not just for some.
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