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Old 05-10-2012, 07:52 AM
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I'm still waiting on the outcry against divorces and second+ marriages.

Sanctity of the institution and whatnot.
This is probably, in part, why I'm so against judgement on this topic. I'm twice divorced and, given my experiences, have a hard time supporting marriage at all because I'm not sure I see any real advantages to it. I'm defensive about my failed marriages and I admit that.

This friend's husband has chimed in, in response to my post and I have replied. I am treading very carefully because I know I'm not going to change this person's mind about anything.

Him: in THIS country, the law gives reasonable expectation of tolerance. However, if our rights we love so dear truly come from God and not the government, there there is a real problem when the country continues to take the "worldly" approach to keep going down the slippery slope of immorality. There will come a time when this country will have progressed so far away from God's law (and freedom) that our nation will no longer exist. No society has ever lasted very long after they lost sight of God's moral compass. Our nation, founded on Godly principals of freedom, has been lucky to last this long. History proves this.

With that said, my stance is to love all as God tells us to. Marriage, through church or law is sacred. People live outside the law all the time. This includes man's law (which naturally comes from God - and man defiles it). I do not believe marriage or legal unions between man/man or woman/woman is right or justified. This includes legal status for things such as insurance benefits, etc. If 2 men live together in that relationship, and one wants the other to be the beneficiary, I guess that's something we can accept. BUT, I do not believe they should be allowed to "marry" or union together.

My response: The longest lasting civilization ever was Ancient Egypt and they were pagans, so I'm not convinced that history proves that no society has lasted very long without God's moral compass. If our country's laws are going to be based on the Bible, then we need to add a whole lot of them because there are a lot of people wearing cotton/polyester blends, cutting their hair, and eating pork and many other things that the Bible calls an abomination. God gave man free will and if you interpret the Bible literally, the very first people used their free will and ignored God's rules. Each and every one of us makes choices every day which of His laws we're going to follow and that's between us and Him on a very personal level. It isn't anybody else's business. Personally, I work hard to live by two of His laws: Judge not and Love thy neighbor. It is up to Him to decide what is right and wrong, not me, not our government and I'm only going to worry about the relationship that He and I have, not anybody else. It is His job to worry about everybody else.


This is a guy who doesn't believe in dinosaurs and fights hard for gun rights and I know my arguments won't go anywhere. I don't know why I bother...
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