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Old 10-19-2009, 10:05 PM
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How are they the community's fault? They can't control a parent who doesn't care about their child's schooling. And live we've all seen, many times when a parent doesn't care, the kid isn't going to care.
The community (like in terms of enforcing laws) can most definitely control a parent up until the child is around 16, so why can't it continue until the child is 18? True, there are kids that aren't gonna care if their parents don't care, but that isn't always the case. But if a child has parents who don't place any emphasis on getting a diploma, it's harder for them to continue. That is where the community should come in. I'm not saying that the community is to blame, but if you HAD to place the blame somewhere, IMO it would be the community.

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With respect to the certification issue, that really has not actually improved the quality of the teachers that are being hired. Point blank, until the government get its act together and starts offering teachers compensation that is really and truly in proportion to what they are worth, they will have a very difficult time finding quality teachers. The low pay and stringent requirements of NCLB are a deterrent for many, many people who would be excellent teachers.
And where is your proof that the more stringent requirements for certification don't improve the quality? That's true that not every teacher is a quality teacher, but NCLB didn't lower the bar, the less-than-quality teachers have been around waaaaay longer than NCLB. The federal government sets up guidelines for what a "highly qualified" teacher is, and each state then sets their own standards for a "highly qualified" teacher. So really, it depends on the state if you have "lower" quality teachers.

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