Turning whores into house-wives

cashmoney · #1 03-30-2005, 02:44 AM

All of us know the phrase "you can't turn a whoe into a house-wife", but I was wondering.....does the same thing apply to guys? What I mean is, do you think guys can run through so many chicks that sooner or later it'll be impossible for them to be husband material or incapable of having a successfull relationship? Or do you think the opposite? Do you think that it takes a guy running through his share of women before he is mentally capable of having a successfull marriage or even becoming husband material? I'm asking because I look at friends of mine who've had sex with well over 100 girls (and yes, their numbers are true) and a couple who've been with close to 200 and i look at them and I see how all of them say the same thing.....which is, "I don't have girlfriends anymore and never will" or "Marriage is out of the question for me."

Ive come to accept the fact that we are what we are. None of us will ever be able to stay faithfull to one woman alone for as long as we'll be married. That is, of course, for those in my circle that actually believe we'll settle down one day. I, personally, have not been able to stay faithfull since I was 12 years old. I must have got an extra testosterone gland in me because one vagina has never been enough. A couple of us, though, think we'll get married eventually because we believe the purpose of marriage to be for one reason and one reason alone.....and that is to have children. My friends share the same view as I on the issue of looking at women that are good for breeding. Some of us look at women who are very tall and have certain eye colors/hair colors and that is what we base our breeding criteria on while others in our circle look strictly at the girl's face when she doesnt have any make-up on and search for the ones who are extremely beautiful while having the best possible body....because even the ugliest bitches in the world can have the best looking body

If you don't believe in all that holy matrimony crap then I'm sure you can see where I'm coming from. Those of you that do believe in holy matrimony, stop here!

Now with all that said, if you have a person who looks at marriage solely for the purpose of having kids....what do you say to them when you think they've hit the ultra point-of-no-return and they still want a kid. Like if this person is 35 years old and he actually does want a kid but he believes you should be married inorder to have a kid. For example, I have a friend named Tony. He's 35 but looks like he's 23. Ive known him for 7 years. He's kind of like an older brother to me. Since Ive known him he's banged at least 100 girls....and he's got me, personally, beat in age by 10 years. So his number is definitely around 200+ females, although he claims he didnt start getting dirty till he met me

His girlfriend lives with him in his condo in downtown O-town. He also has about 4 other fuck buddies and he's still picking up random females from downtown Orlando every now and then. Despite all that, he's wanting a kid. And he's serisouly thinking about knocking a woman up. Whoever he knocks up, he says, is who'll he'll marry. He's just like me in the sense that we both think we have to breed with 6 ft tall chicks, so he's seriously looking at this 6 foot 3 inch chick he met out in Orlando. She's white, blonde, big D titties and long legs. He looks just like Tiki Barber (the NFL player) but is 6'4....so I definitely can see why he wants to have a kid with this girl. I know he'll never be able to stay faithfull to a woman but right now I don't feel like this is the wisest thing for him to do.....but I really don't know what to say to him. For him, I kind of feel like telling him...."go ahead and do it" because his clock is ticking and I know whatever marriage he gets into he'll cheat in and it'll just end in divorce. He asked me and my friend Travis (my big/part-time roomie) what we thought about it. I don't know what to say. Travis told him he's crazy if he thinks that by knocking her up he'll get the kid because in Florida chicks usually always get the kid. Travis is anti-marriage so when Tony told him he'd ask her to marry him should he actually knock her up Travis flipped out and said he's crazy. Yet Travis is the one who thinks strippers are the only "down to earth-real girls out there" and we both think they're mostly soon to be crackheads if they already arent/ glorified prostitutes. Travis thinks he'll end up having a kid with a stripper one day but only after he's done playing professional football

meanwhile he's already had 5 abortions with strippers

So, what are you thoughts on the questions asked?

-Cashmoney

honeychile · #2 03-30-2005, 03:11 AM

I've known two former prostitutes who were able to escape their pimps, change their entire life around, and are both respectable wives. I'm sure it happens all the time - just like any other marriage, as long as two people are willing to do their best to make it work, it will.

winnieb · #3 03-30-2005, 04:09 AM

I think for the right person anyone can change their wild ways. But there is no harm in enjoying yourself until you find the right one.

If you are going to marry someone be sure you love them. Marriage is hard and having kids together is even harder. (trust me!!!) If there isn't something (besides the height of the chic) to draw you together then your life together will be HELL!! No use living like that, it is not worth it. And not fair to the child either--- while having a genetically superior child is a benefit, having a mentally f'ed up kid is a huge draw back.

Do you plan on finding the perfect tall woman, marrying her, getting her pregnant, having the kid, then divorcing her and seeking custody? In many many states the father would have to be a saint and the mother a crack-whore before the father would get custody of the child. If you aren't in love but want a child-- hire a surrogate. You can select her based on your personal preferences, use your own baby batter and the baby is yours.

And as far as finding a "perfect" person to breed with-- I honestly think that is part of our genetic makeup. People of similiar looks/ characteristics tend to flock together-- I don't mean all blonde hair blue eyed people should hook up -- I mean beautiful people tend to attract beautiful people or smart people attract smart people. I think that happens for a reason--- it goes to that basic human desire to have sex, breed, to create a superior offspring.

-wendi

ms_gwyn · #4 03-30-2005, 04:14 AM

well it seems like the classic "male" syndrome of wanting a son to be just like him....I can't imagine men like this wanting daughters...that would just f*ck 'em up in the head too much.

I know that there are guys like this out there and I think marriage is the worst thing for them....unless some dramatic life changing action happens and they do a 180....otherwise, just stay a player for the rest of their lives...which leads to the obvious question...is he ready for the responsibility of fatherhood, the WHOLE nine yards and all the love and heartache that goes with being a parent.

I am doubtful of guys like this being in a committed, 1-women relationship, being a parent is entirely different kettle of fish.

RedRoseSAI · #5 03-30-2005, 09:54 AM

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Originally posted by ms_gwyn
well it seems like the classic "male" syndrome of wanting a son to be just like him....I can't imagine men like this wanting daughters...that would just f*ck 'em up in the head too much.

Thats a good point. What would he do if he had a baby with this amazon goddess and it turned out to be a girl?

agdbirmingham · #6 03-30-2005, 10:00 AM

Wow, sounds like you have a lot on your mind !!

I would DEFINITELY not recommend getting married JUST to have a child!! Let me tell you from personal experience (I have an 11 month old baby), he is the love of my life, a wonderful baby, but ALOT of work!! If you have a child with someone you don’t love or even don’t like for that matter, you are bonded to that person FOREVER regardless if the marriage works or not. If someone goes into a marriage knowing they're not going to be faithful, knows they're going to have a lot of problems, etc. then why would you want to bring a child into all that? IMHO I truly believe that having a child is a privilege not a right.

But with that all said, I think people (including guys) can definitely change their ways, be faithful, and have a successful marriage and relationship as long as they WANT to. I have known quite a few people that were, well, let’s just call them “party animals”, then they calmed down, got married, had kids, and have been happy. But they wanted to change their ways. If they went into the marriage not wanting to be faithful, then I think there would be a lot of problems.

cashmoney · #7 03-30-2005, 11:06 AM

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Originally posted by RedRoseSAI
Thats a good point. What would he do if he had a baby with this amazon goddess and it turned out to be a girl?

Buy a gun and guard the fuck out of her from guys like us. I'd still be the coolest pops out there, but she wont have a chance in hell to fuck as long as I'm in her life.

cashmoney · #8 03-30-2005, 11:16 AM

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Originally posted by honeychile
I've known two former prostitutes who were able to escape their pimps, change their entire life around, and are both respectable wives. I'm sure it happens all the time - just like any other marriage, as long as two people are willing to do their best to make it work, it will.

Prostitutes are a whole different ball game. They fuck for money. Its a job for them. That said, they can quit that job anytime they want and it wont phase them. Whats being talked about here is a way of life, eventually it takes over the individual (being a player) and it's all they really know. But I see what you're saying. And, I, still have hope that things can/will change the older everyone gets.

HotDamnImAPhiMu · #9 03-30-2005, 12:18 PM

I dated a Marine who came back from Iraq and went a little crazy when he got home. A lot of drinking, a couple one night stands, a lot of wild nights out with his buddies.

Two months after he'd been back, he met me. Things were great, we fell in love, he didn't feel the drive to do crazy stuff anymore. Five months after we'd started dating, one of those one night stands called him.

She'd lied about being on the pill, she said, and was 7 months pregnant with his child. A DNA test after the child was born proved the Marine was the father, and it's been a nightmare for the poor guy ever since.

This girl. Has done nothing. But screw him over. I'm not with the guy anymore, but I talk to him every once in awhile, and it's always something different -- the mom filed for some crazy custody situation. Is threatening to sue him because he didn't pay any prenatal costs. Is threatening to move out of state. Wants the dad to date her. Says she's being thrown out of her place. Says she needs money to buy baby formula. Lots of lying, lots of heartache. She even tries to keep the guy from seeing his son, whenever she starts seeing a new guy.

This girl's still doing cocaine and working as a waitress and living off her parents. The guy's life has fallen apart -- he lost a great relationship with a great girl (haha, that'd be me), a *ton* of money on DNA tests, court costs, lawyer's fees, and child support -- and now he's 23, tied to a woman he hates for the next 18 years, and stuck in DC because if he moves anywhere else -- even as a career move! -- that ends his relationship with his kid.

What I'm trying to say is, please don't have a baby with a woman you're not in love with. It's guarenteed heartache. And the baby is pretty screwed -- that's not the home life a child deserves. No matter how together Daddy is, Mommy is a mess, and Mommy's set on making relations between Daddy and son a mess.

texas*princess · #10 03-30-2005, 12:45 PM

I think it is pretty doubtful for a man-whore to become a "one-woman-man" just b/c he wants to get married to have a kid.

If all he wants is a kid out of the deal, hire a surrogate mother.

Like alphagam-alum said, having a great-looking kid is one thing, but having that kid be messed up in the head b/c of Mommy & Daddy's nasty divorce, crazy custody battles and everything else is totally different.

dgfromtx · #11 03-30-2005, 01:23 PM

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Originally posted by cashmoney
Buy a gun and guard the fuck out of her from guys like us. I'd still be the coolest pops out there, but she wont have a chance in hell to fuck as long as I'm in her life.

There's something wrong with that comment. I can't put my fingers on it though...

cashmoney · #12 03-30-2005, 01:29 PM

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Originally posted by dgfromtx
There's something wrong with that comment. I can't put my fingers on it though...

Maybe because your dad was a little protective of you? You can bet your ass that if any of us have daughters we're going to be protective as hell when it comes to them. Thats something women can't and will never fully understand. We know what goes on in the minds of young men and when they're young nothing good is going through their minds when they think about girls.

cashmoney · #13 03-30-2005, 01:32 PM

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Originally posted by HotDamnImAPhiMu
What I'm trying to say is, please don't have a baby with a woman you're not in love with. It's guarenteed heartache. And this guy's son is pretty screwed -- that's not the home life he deserves. No matter how together Daddy is, Mommy is a mess, and Mommy's set on making relations between Daddy and son a mess.

I don't believe that married people keep that magical "in love" feeling very long. Most married people tell me that feeling goes away and that the reason why they stay married is because they're committed and not because they're "in love."

cashmoney · #14 03-30-2005, 01:34 PM

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Originally posted by agdbirmingham
Wow, sounds like you have a lot on your mind !!

But with that all said, I think people (including guys) can definitely change their ways, be faithful, and have a successful marriage and relationship as long as they WANT to. I have known quite a few people that were, well, let’s just call them “party animals”, then they calmed down, got married, had kids, and have been happy. But they wanted to change their ways. If they went into the marriage not wanting to be faithful, then I think there would be a lot of problems.

My thoughts exactly. I still have hope that change can take place.

cashmoney · #15 03-30-2005, 01:40 PM

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Originally posted by texas*princess
I think it is pretty doubtful for a man-whore to become a "one-woman-man" just b/c he wants to get married to have a kid.

If all he wants is a kid out of the deal, hire a surrogate mother.

2 things...

1. There's no such thing as a man-whore. Guys can't be whores even if we tried. Its our inherent nature to want to fuck a lot.

2. Where the hell do you find surrogate mothers at?