Florida Loses Appeal in Terri Schiavo Case - Page 13

moe.ron · #**181** 03-28-2005, 02:05 PM

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Originally posted by mu_agd
uumm, so how is it different??

(and not directed at you Dee!)

No political mileage out of it.

mu_agd · #**182** 03-28-2005, 02:13 PM

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Originally posted by moe.ron
No political mileage out of it.

aahh.. that makes sense.

AGDee · #**183** 03-28-2005, 02:41 PM

His defense was that with his father, it was a matter of withholding treatment whereas with Terri, it was withdrawing treatment. Sounds pretty hypocritical to me.

Found a link:
Delay's Dad

Honeykiss1974 · #**184** 03-28-2005, 03:22 PM

The difference between Delay and Schiavo is that fact that the Delay family was in agreement to the withholding of treatment, unlike Schiavo's where the husband (who has moved one and started a new family) claims that Terry would have wanted it versus her family that believes she said otherwise. Not to mention their difference in physical state of beings.

Taualumna · #**185** 03-28-2005, 07:16 PM

Another difference, from what I understand is that Delay Sr was totally relying on a ventilator to survive, while Schiavo is not. By pulling the ventilator, Delay Sr died within minutes. Schiavo's death takes days.

AGDee · #**186** 03-28-2005, 09:39 PM

They didn't take him off the ventilator, according to reports, they just refused kidney dialysis. He died 27 days after his accident. They made that decision based on predictions that he would be in a persistent vegatative state. People do come off of ventilators sometimes. I worked in a group home for closed head injured patients. The longest any of them had been in a coma was 1 year. Some of them were on ventilators for months, but came off of them. Terri has been brain dead for 15 years with no change in her condition. Fifteen years. FIFTEEN years!

Terri's husband didn't exactly go out the next day and start having babies with someone else. He waited until 1998. Look at this time line, the therapies they tried, the treatment they attempted and she showed NO improvement at all:

February 1990… Terri suffers cardiac arrest and a severe loss of oxygen to her brain
May 1990… Terri leaves hospital and is brought to a rehabiliation center for aggressive therapy
July 1990… Terri is brought to the home where her husband and parents live; after a few weeks, she is brought back to the rehabilitation center
November 1990… Terri is taken to California for experimental therapies
January 1991… Terri is returned to Florida and placed at a rehabilitation center in Brandon
July 1991… Terri is transfered to a skilled nursing facility where she receives aggressive physical therapy and speech therapy
May 1992… Michael and the Schindlers stop living together
January 1993… Michael recovers $1 million settlement for medical malpractice claim involving Terri's care; jury had ruled in Michael's favor on allegations Terri's doctors failed to diagnose her bulimia, which led to her heart failure; case settled while on appeal
March 1994… Terri is transferred to a Largo nursing home
May 1998… Michael files petition for court to determine whether Terri's feeding tube should be removed; Michael takes position that Terri would choose to remove the tube; Terri's parents take position that Terri would choose not to remove the tube

Terri will be in a much better place soon. I hope that if I am ever put in that situation with one of my children, I can let them move on to their everlasting life instead of keeping them here in this world. I pray that nobody ever makes me exist in that state, but lets me move on as well.

I filled out that 5 wishes paper and have sent the link to my mom too. I know her wishes, as does my brother, and her brother and sister, but I prefer to have it in writing.

Dee

kddani · #**187** 03-29-2005, 08:58 AM

is it terrible of me to check CNN frequently to see if she's dead yet?

I didn't think you could live this long without water.

Michael must be anticipating a wrongful death suit- there will be an autopsy performed, specifically to exam the brain, I believe

DELTAQTE · #**188** 03-29-2005, 09:48 AM

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Originally posted by kddani
is it terrible of me to check CNN frequently to see if she's dead yet?

I didn't think you could live this long without water.

Michael must be anticipating a wrongful death suit- there will be an autopsy performed, specifically to exam the brain, I believe

No you aren't the only one. I know that it takes up to 2 weeks for a person to die, but I just KNOW that someone is going to get shot from one of these extreme pro-lifers. This is going to be a mess when that woman dies, it really is.

I saw on MSNBC that all this hoopla is bothering other patients in the hospital, the families of other patients have to show id's, etc. The school next to the hospital had to move the kids to another location, what in the world?

I'm glad that Michael decided to do the autopsy, everyone was screaming that she was abused and he's doing the autopsy to prove that she wasn't abused and that her brain really wasn't functioning. Like I said before, I don't buy all the stuff against the husband at all.

kddani · #**189** 03-29-2005, 10:38 AM

Her parents are selling the names and address of people who have sent them donations:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/29/po...tml?oref=login

texas*princess · #**190** 03-29-2005, 11:14 AM

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Originally posted by kddani
Her parents are selling the names and address of people who have sent them donations:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/29/po...tml?oref=login

That's really rude! They are donating money to help their daughter.. I doubt they want a lot of solicitations from other groups

sageofages · #**191** 03-29-2005, 11:29 AM

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Originally posted by kddani
Her parents are selling the names and address of people who have sent them donations:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/29/po...tml?oref=login

hmmm.....it IS all about the benjamins...

Sort of lend credence to the claim the fall out started when the parents didn't get some of the malpractice settlement money like Michael Schiavo claimed.

mu_agd · #**192** 03-29-2005, 11:31 AM

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Originally posted by kddani
Her parents are selling the names and address of people who have sent them donations:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/29/po...tml?oref=login

I would be so pissed if I donatedc money and then they sold all my information.

33girl · #**193** 03-29-2005, 12:02 PM

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Originally posted by DELTAQTE
I saw on MSNBC that all this hoopla is bothering other patients in the hospital, the families of other patients have to show id's, etc. The school next to the hospital had to move the kids to another location, what in the world?

That's exactly what someone on another MB I visit said - there are like 70 other patients in that facility in hospice care. Imagine going through that experience with a loved one which is difficult enough, and having to deal with all this media crap on top of it.

Rudey · #**194** 03-29-2005, 02:08 PM

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Originally posted by kddani
Her parents are selling the names and address of people who have sent them donations:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/29/po...tml?oref=login

They sued the husband before to get a part of his settlement with the insurance agency over Terri.

-Rudey

Rudey · #**195** 03-29-2005, 02:52 PM

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/29/na...ackson.html?hp

Jackson Meets With Schiavo's Parents in Florida

Published: March 29, 2005

INELLAS PARK, Fla. (AP) -- The parents of Terri Schiavo met and prayed Tuesday with the Rev. Jesse Jackson, who called her impending death "an injustice."

Joining the conservatives who have rallied to the parents' cause, the liberal Jackson said he would call state senators who opposed legislation that would have reinserted Schiavo's feeding tube and ask them to reconsider.

Read rest at link above.

-Rudey