Putting one of your glos about another

[Think About It]

First of all, I wanted to make it clear that I'm not a troll. I am actually a registered GCer that has over 1500 total posts since I registered a few years ago. The only reason I'm posting this (and another thread I will post later) under a different name is because, since the topic might cause tension, I didn't want other GCers to think of me badly. This being said, know that I am posting this with nothing but good intentions. Please keep an open mind, and I promise to do the same.

On to the topic. There's lots of Greeks who are in more than one GLO. I've seen some in 3! I have no problem with this. Out of personal observations, I know a few girls who are in both a NPC sorority and a service sorority. Yet, on their cars, they have a lisence plate, lisence plate frame, and decal for ONLY the NPC sorority. Or when they refer to both groups, they make it sound like the non-NPC was just an afterthought, or not as important.

In my observations here on GC, I've seen many, many posters who are in more than one GLO. What bothers me is that sometimes the poster only includes the letters for ONE of their groups in their sig, or if both are there...the NPC/NPHC is always larger, and above the other! This, too, makes it look like the non NPC was just an afterthought, or not as important to them.

If you joined two groups, you should love them both equally. I'm actually in an NPC sorority. I'm familiar with the two service orgs on my campus well because my best friend belongs to one and I dated a guy in another. If I were in a non-NPC though, I would never consider it to be less important than my NPC. I'm not saying this is what those people think, but it looks that way.

If one set of letters is larger for a good reason--say, you joined it long before the non-npc or whatever--then maybe I see the reasoning.

Other than that, I'd like to see non-NPC/NPHC GLOs start being treated like equal Greeks.

[sugar and spice]

What if their NPC/NPHC experience WAS more important to them than their service/professional GLO experience?

[Optimist Prime]

my post on topic

Non-social orgs don't count. That's why. Unless you go to a school where the primary function of them is social, because the real Greek system isn't very good.


aside to thread starter

don't be afraid of what people from some web-site think about you.

[Think About It]

Originally posted by Optimist Prime
my post on topic

Non-social orgs don't count. That's why. Unless you go to a school where the primary function of them is social, because the real Greek system isn't very good.


aside to thread starter

don't be afraid of what people from some web-site think about you.

Why do they not "count"?

[sairose]

Originally posted by Optimist Prime
my post on topic

Non-social orgs don't count. That's why. Unless you go to a school where the primary function of them is social, because the real Greek system isn't very good.


aside to thread starter

don't be afraid of what people from some web-site think about you.

okay, first to the original poster. I think, honestly, the reasoning for that is if the person was more active in the other group, or belonged to it first. I don't honestly think any of the ones on GC put one group above another. I see where you're coming from, but I think maybe it's just for clarity (as in, the bigger letters represent the group they are more involved with).

Okay, and....would you kindly explain how non NPC/NPHCs "don't count"? That is really offensive, considering how many non NPC/NPHC posters there are on here. I'm one of them. For the record, SAI is actually social; we simply are only open to musicians, and don't belong to NPC. That's the ONLY difference. Every other way we function is like any other social org.

And service, professional, etc are just as Greek. Their aim might be a bit different, but they still have rush, ritual, etc.

I'm getting a little tired of this mindset.

[PM_Mama00]

One of my Phi Mu sisters was also a member of Beta Alpha Psi (business professional). Eventually she kinda vanished from Phi Mu to be more active in the other, but we all understood because that fraternity was getting her ready for her career and all.

[Senusret I]

I just took all the letters out of my signature and called it a day.

I've been an APO longer than I've been an Alpha (by four years) so I feel like most of my para-wearing days for APO are behind me. More people in my community identify with/know about APhiA, so it probably seems to them like APhiA is more important to me.

On the other hand, some people in APO still don't know that I'm an Alpha......when I am doing APO stuff, I am all about APO.

Point is....they are apples and oranges. I try to keep them as separate as possible while maintaining an equal love for both.

(Then there was that one time I was the MC for a step show that both APO and APhiA were participating in. That was a rough night!)

[AOII_LB93]

First of all this is the internet, who cares what someone on the other side of a monitor might "think" of you? Secondly who are you to tell people on this website how to put their letters in a signature? Thirdly, who cares how they do it?? It very well may be that their NPC/NPHC/MC is more important to them, or that is the one they identify themselves with more. How can you love them both equally if they both mean something different to you and their rituals and traditions are different?
It's not like children where you should love them both equally, which by the way most parents that I have talked to don't love their children in the same way because each child is special and different...kind of like a GLO in a certain respect.

This reminds me of an old thread about badge placement, but let's just not go there again.

[kddani]

normally i don't condone the fake usernames playing in the non-chit chad forum, but this is a perfect one for "keyboard courage"

c'mon, this isn't even a very controversial topic, grow a pair and post in your real name!

[Jill1228]

AOII_LB93 you SO are my new hero!

Originally posted by AOII_LB93
First of all this is the internet, who cares what someone on the other side of a monitor might "think" of you? Secondly who are you to tell people on this website how to put their letters in a signature? Thirdly, who cares how they do it?? It very well may be that their NPC/NPHC/MC is more important to them, or that is the one they identify themselves with more. How can you love them both equally if they both mean something different to you and their rituals and traditions are different?
It's not like children where you should love them both equally, which by the way most parents that I have talked to don't love their children in the same way because each child is special and different...kind of like a GLO in a certain respect.

This reminds me of an old thread about badge placement, but let's just not go there again.

[Erik P Conard]

In many cases the involvement in the social fraternity was far more intense than the others....
Sometimes one joined the professional or honorary ones due to
pressures put on by departments, like history, radio, art, foreign
language. Sinfonia and Sigma Alpha Iota were never even close
to being "social" on my campuses. The boy scout one was fine, and we discussed our old "camporee" days and merit badges, but
little else in our 2-3 meetings held in the school year. And all too
often, especially social sororities, heavily encouraged members to
belong to several greek letter clubs and these memberships were
often touted as "resume packers."
They had no housing, did no philantropy, met seldom, did not participate in intramurals or in exchanges. Never wore "letters."
Most of their members also belonged to social outfits.
This does not mean they were useless or merely plaques; their
missions were different.
If anything, recent times seem to indicate a desire by these groups, professionals mostly, to be a social but not have the
involvement which was expected from social ones.
Now, don't get all bent out of shape over this...but there is a helleva lot of difference between the social, IFC, PanHel, what
have you, and the professionals. This does not imply that they
are inferior, just different orientations.

[Optimist Prime]

Originally posted by Think About It
Why do they not "count"?

Because they were created with very different intentions. Most of the professional fraternities center around one major. At most campuses..camp uh...campi, they exist to bring people together who are interested in for say, real estate, or business, or psychology, etc. They count and are good for resume as leadership expeirnce but in social glos, you are there because you want to be, you say to other people, by being in a Fraternity, that these men here with me are my Brothers and I love them, and we have all sworn on what we hold most sacred to keep the vows of true friendship, upon which Brotherhood is based. A Fraternity is a group of friends, who are so close to each other that it feels like family. That is what being means. Just because you have a cool t shirt and a secret handshake and maybe called brother, doesn't mean its the same thing. I have brothers who were in other pseudo greek orgs. No one can be more than one type of Greek. You can't be from two city-states at the ancient olympics, so when it comes down to it, which are you're letters, its always the one that represtes the people that you choose to be friends with.

[valkyrie]

Originally posted by Think About It
If you joined two groups, you should love them both equally.

Dude, I love pizza with cheese and extra sauce more than pizza without extra sauce, so you should too. WTF? That's just weird, no offense. Who cares what anyone else does or feels about her GLO affiliation?

[kddani]

GLOs aren't your children. Children are about the only things that I think you should always love equally.

[CutiePie2000]

Originally posted by kddani
Children are about the only things that I think you should always love equally.

And even that, adults have a hard time demonstrating

Seriously though..I'll take a bite at this topic. I'm not sure what the joining process is for service sororities.
That being said, if it is not cut-throat in that way that, say, NPC rush at Ole Miss is, than the NPC group will have more "panache", more sex appeal, as it were, because membership is more difficult to secure, and is therefore perceived as more precious, more something to advertise. But if joining a service sorority *IS* as difficult as joining an NPC at your campus, then I give up because I have no idea.

Similarly, if someone is in an Honor Society like Phi Beta Kappa and an NPC, then the Phi Beta Kappa name tends to get "bandied about" more than the NPC's name (For example, Jen the 1st RU in THE APPRENTICE. She's a Phi Beta Kappa and a Kappa Alpha Theta...she mentioned Phi Beta Kappa by name while she was fighting for her life in front of Trump, but not Kappa Alpha Theta, which she merely referred to as "my sorority".)

I think it comes down to a combination of perceived 'panache', sex appeal and whichever one was deemed to be more difficult to secure an invitation to membership to. Also, not sure if service sororities are limited as to how many new bodies they can take on each year, the way that the NPCs are limited due to the setting of quota and all that.