Company selling "Canada" Kit to Americans

[CutiePie2000]

Originally posted by texas*princess
I hardly doubt real Canadians will start getting harrassed in Europe. Maybe I don't know this because I live in Texas (which is pretty far from Canada ) but seriously -- how many Canadians would seriously walk all around Europe with the flag plastered everywhere?

No, Canadians don't "plaster" themselves with the Maple Leaf when abroad, but backpackers often / typically have the maple leaf sewed onto the outside of their packs.

Originally posted by texas*princess
I hardly doubt real Canadians will start getting harrassed in Europe.

No, in general Canadians are treated quite well when abroad (Europe, Australia). Whenever I spoke in Australia, my accent naturally betrayed that I was not a "local". When I said that I was from Canada, that was typically met with a positive response. (some "ruder" people would make negative American comments too...sorry! )

[RACooper]

Originally posted by texas*princess
Maybe I don't know this because I live in Texas (which is pretty far from Canada ) but seriously -- how many Canadians would seriously walk all around Europe with the flag plastered everywhere? I would think that Canadians - like most other people wear regular clothes on an everyday basis.

Actually many are urged to sport the maple leaf when they travel so as not to be mistaken for an American... besides you tend to get a little better treatment in some places when they know your a Canadian.... or at least a slightly more positive response

Thing is the whole Americans passing themselves off as Canadians has been happening for quite awhile... my concerns are about the future security of Canadians; because the more common this practice becomes, the more likely Canadians will be targeted by America's enemies...

Or as summed up in a Toronto Star write-in:

Maple Leaf to become a target?
ReAmerican tourists urged to pose as Canadians
Dec.7
I can appreciate the reasoning behind Americans wanting to blend in with their Canadian counterparts abroad, but does this not further imperil Canadians in foreign lands? Fanaticism against the West dictates a hostility which "shoots first, then asks questions later, if at all." Terrorists may decide to target the red Maple Leaf wherever they see it, just in case the Stars and Stripes is concealed underneath.
Robert L. Tripp Ridgeway, Ont.

[Rudey]

It is wrong to attack someone based on nationality. Do people not understand this? Do not sit there saying you're worried you would get targeted because the issue isn't why you're getting targeted but the fact that you are being targeted in the first place.

Why are people so violent these days? Do they not get nooky?

-Rudey

[CutiePie2000]

Originally posted by Rudey
Why are people so violent these days? Do they not get nooky?

It's because their mothers didn't love them enough.
It all stems back to Freud.

[Lady Pi Phi]

Originally posted by texas*princess
Am I the only one who finds this amusing? The "Go Canadian" thing was started off when someone jokingly said they'll pretend to be Canadians so they don't have to deal with political BS on their vacation...

...As far as "rethinking" our behavior -- I am a productive citizen. I don't have a crimial record, I pay taxes, and all that jazz...but I'm only one person. There's not much I can do to change the way thousands of other countries' citizens feel about my country or their generalizations of my fellow Americans...

This is not a "Bush thing". Like RACooper said, this has been happening for quite some time. Not just since Bush took office.

Also, my suggestion that one "rethinks" their behaviour was not directed at you or anyone on this board. It was a general statement. If anyone thinks it is necessay to pose as a citizen of a different country then maybe it's because they are poorly behaved on their travels. One will find that if they are polite, resepectful, co-operative, etc. then they will be treated the same way. This also is not just an American thing. It applies to everyone. If you are a courteous traveller, then you will most likely be treated with courtesy.

And there are things that you can do as one person to change other views of your country. The problem with stereotypes is that they are partially true. Some people, somewhere are living up to them. You, as a single individual can not get caught up in the stereotype (and I am in no way suggesting that you perpetuate any kind of stereotype).

Basically, all I am saying is, if you (that's a general "you"), as a traveller, have found yourself to be treated badly along your journey, then maybe it's something you did, i.e poor behaviour, and not your country.

[KillarneyRose]

I apologize in advance because this is completely off-topic, but since there are so many Canadians posting in this thread I figured I could get a quick answer to my question

This is a completely random question, but I was just curious. I know that officially Canada uses the metric system, but do you guys understand the English system (inches, feet, pounds, etc.) as well? And, if that is the case, is it taught to you in school or is it just something you've picked up?

Thanks!

[RACooper]

Originally posted by KillarneyRose
This is a completely random question, but I was just curious. I know that officially Canada uses the metric system, but do you guys understand the English system (inches, feet, pounds, etc.) as well? And, if that is the case, is it taught to you in school or is it just something you've picked up?

Thanks!

The Metric system is the only system taught in school... but we all understand and use the Imperial system as well, partly because of influence from the US and the UK and partly because our parents were raised with the ol'Imperial system as well...

So here's a breakdown (in general) of what system Canadians use by topic:
Height & Weight - Imperial (Metric on documents)
Construction - Imperial
Bar Supplies (glass/booze) - Imperial
Temperature - Metric
Distance - Metric (mosly - some older folks still use Imperial)
Speed - Metric
Groceries - mix of Metric and Imperial
Science - Metric (of course)

[texas*princess]

Originally posted by Lady Pi Phi
This is not a "Bush thing". Like RACooper said, this has been happening for quite some time. Not just since Bush took office.

hmmm i never said it was a Bush thing... and I don't think all hatred towards Americans is b/c of the president.

Also, my suggestion that one "rethinks" their behaviour was not directed at you or anyone on this board. It was a general statement. If anyone thinks it is necessay to pose as a citizen of a different country then maybe it's because they are poorly behaved on their travels. One will find that if they are polite, resepectful, co-operative, etc. then they will be treated the same way. This also is not just an American thing. It applies to everyone. If you are a courteous traveller, then you will most likely be treated with courtesy.

I'm a pretty courteous person. What if I was still to get harrassed about politics or whatever else just because in a nice conversation I say I'm from America?

The main reason this product was created was for that reason - so they won't get harrassed about random political stuff. It has nothing to do with their behavior.

[RACooper]

Originally posted by Lady Pi Phi
This is not a "Bush thing". Like RACooper said, this has been happening for quite some time. Not just since Bush took office.

Ah yes... but while in the past there was some hostility towards American tourists ("the ugly/loud/arrogant/crass American" stereotype), it has I would argue reached new levels because of the interest and attention focused on the US and it's policies under Bush...

For example politics and policies were rarely the main topic of discussion at bars or pubs with Americans... mostly you talked sports, entertainment, whatever... but now that US policies are having such a large effect on the world at large people are now much more interested (and opinionated). Further I would argue that the "confrontational" nature of some people towards Americans and politics stems from the fact that world-opinion is marginized (or mocked) by the administration and most of the American media (that makes it out of the US) - people are seeing this as a chance to make their opinions known for better or worse; being the world's only super-power makes you the centre of attention and discussion...

[PhiPsiRuss]

Originally posted by texas*princess
hmmm i never said it was a Bush thing... and I don't think all hatred towards Americans is b/c of the president.

It has little to do with who is President, and little to do with American policies. Its mostly jealousy because the U.S. is the most powerful nation on Earth. In many nations where contempt for America is strongest, its driven by government controlled media to deflect public opinion from local government corruption and incompetence.

Originally posted by RACooper
For example politics and policies were rarely the main topic of discussion at bars or pubs with Americans... mostly you talked sports, entertainment, whatever... but now that US policies are having such a large effect on the world at large people are now much more interested (and opinionated).

Bullshit.

What sports are you going to discuss with Americans? Hockey? Most don't care. Football? We play the real version, y'all's is bastardized. Soccer? Most Americans couldnt' name more than 3 players on our national team, let alone discuss strategy. Basketball? We own y'all. Baseball? I'm surprised y'all don't confuse it with cricket.

As far as the whole, "I'm American, but will pose as a Canadian overseas" thing....

I would MUCH RATHER be harassed or attacked as a TEXAN or AMERICAN then present myself as a canadian. Sorry, that's just how it is. I don't care how more 'world-friendly' your government is, and honestly, i'm glad that we're not seen as "ms. congeniality" by the rest of civilization. I would much rather be seen as the unstable girl in the corner, who cuts her own hair and wears White-Out as nail polish, and has the ability to make your life a living hell, then the girl that will compromise herself daily and bend over backwards to appease any and all comers.

Any person that is so ashamed of their heritage that will present themselves as fucking canadians abroad should be stripped of their US nationality and forced to wait on line to gain admittance to Canada.

KS 361 beers i've had tonight, so i'm on a bit of a rant

[RACooper]

Originally posted by AggieSigmaNu361
Bullshit.

What sports are you going to discuss with Americans? Hockey? Most don't care. Football? We play the real version, y'all's is bastardized. Soccer? Most Americans couldnt' name more than 3 players on our national team, let alone discuss strategy. Basketball? We own y'all. Baseball? I'm surprised y'all don't confuse it with cricket.

As far as the whole, "I'm American, but will pose as a Canadian overseas" thing....

I would MUCH RATHER be harassed or attacked as a TEXAN or AMERICAN then present myself as a canadian. Sorry, that's just how it is. I don't care how more 'world-friendly' your government is, and honestly, i'm glad that we're not seen as "ms. congeniality" by the rest of civilization. I would much rather be seen as the unstable girl in the corner, who cuts her own hair and wears White-Out as nail polish, and has the ability to make your life a living hell, then the girl that will compromise herself daily and bend over backwards to appease any and all comers.

Any person that is so ashamed of their heritage that will present themselves as fucking canadians abroad should be stripped of their US nationality and forced to wait on line to gain admittance to Canada.

KS 361 beers i've had tonight, so i'm on a bit of a rant

Believe you me you'd be attacked for being a crass, arrogant, asshole long before the American or Texan thing came up... although they might say it figures coming from the same state as Bush

As for sports this may come as a shock to you but "American" style sports are played in Canada and Europe. Here is a breakdown of sports that you can talk about...

Hockey - last time I checked it was pretty much an international sport - in fact many NHL players are playing in Europe now.
Baseball - areas outside the US have interest in the sport, and you can catch the playoffs and World Series on most sports channels overseas.
Football - again we (Canada) invented it... so your version would technically be the bastardized version . But again it may suprise you to learn that Germany has sell-out crowds to "American" football in the World League (were as the soccer attendance is going down).
Soccer - hey Canadians couldn't name even one member of our national team... but then again we don't really watch the Canadian team - the Euros and World Cup are much more interesting.
Basketball - apparently you forgot that we (Canadians again) invented this sport too...
Rugby - too bad you didn't mention this... you might enjoy the sport.
Racing - not the Nascar, but the real racing that happens everywhere else in the world.
Yatching - yes I know America has pretty much ruled it lately... but it is fun to watch.
Horse Racing - you can pick it up anywhere, and it's easy to get into even a local event.
Cricket - umm... sorry don't understand it; but it is popular in the British Commonwealth (except here in Canada).
Tennis - again not my cup o'tea, but hey people watch and talk.
Olympics - you may not have noticed but every two years everyone is given something to talk about .

As for you comment about "fucking canadians"... two things...
1- Canadians - at least have the common decency to capitalize it moron.
2- You are the perfect example of the ugly, loud, obnoxious, arrogant, ignorant American that the steotype seems to be based on....

PS> 361 Beers... so with conversion that'd be what 36 real beers?

Originally posted by AggieSigmaNu361
Bullshit.

What sports are you going to discuss with Americans? Hockey? Most don't care. Football? We play the real version, y'all's is bastardized. Soccer? Most Americans couldnt' name more than 3 players on our national team, let alone discuss strategy. Basketball? We own y'all. Baseball? I'm surprised y'all don't confuse it with cricket.

As far as the whole, "I'm American, but will pose as a Canadian overseas" thing....

I would MUCH RATHER be harassed or attacked as a TEXAN or AMERICAN then present myself as a canadian. Sorry, that's just how it is. I don't care how more 'world-friendly' your government is, and honestly, i'm glad that we're not seen as "ms. congeniality" by the rest of civilization. I would much rather be seen as the unstable girl in the corner, who cuts her own hair and wears White-Out as nail polish, and has the ability to make your life a living hell, then the girl that will compromise herself daily and bend over backwards to appease any and all comers.

Any person that is so ashamed of their heritage that will present themselves as fucking canadians abroad should be stripped of their US nationality and forced to wait on line to gain admittance to Canada.

KS 361 beers i've had tonight, so i'm on a bit of a rant

lol

and this is why i need a breathalyzer on my keyboard

KS 361