Former Sisters Forming a New Group

[azdtaxi]

So we had a couple of sisters for different reasons drop out of our chapter. Now a year later, they are starting a chapter of a latina sorority. They were intiated members of our chapter. Our greek advisor is suporting them in this new effort even though she knows they were former members of our group. I know there is no rule on this because the new group they are trying to form is not panhellenic but it just seems shady. What do ya'll think?

[texas*princess]

I think it really depends on the reasons why they left... which is probably something only they *really* know. I say this, because unless there was some huge falling out and everyone witnessed something that made them want to leave, all you really have to go off of was why they *told* you they left. It could be they left because they wanted something from a sisterhood that they didn't see ... or because something bad happened...

I was once a member of a local sorority, as were many of my close friends from the first university I went to. A lot of baaaaaaad stuff happened, and about half of the local sorority deactivated... myself included.

Some went on to join the new KDChi colony that was forming (which I believe is predominately a latina sorority), and the others (myself included) started another local with the intent of going national. I transferred before they colonized with a NPC group and found my home in ADPi up here. They are now all happily initiated members of another NPC at my old university.

The school was not a very big greek school... at the time all this happened there were only 2 local sororities, and the KDChi colony. One of the local sororities went national w/ a NPC group, the other local (that had many members leave) stayed local, and the group that broke off to form the new local eventually went on to becoming another NPC.... so maybe your perspective depends on the school atmosphere....

Personally, I think it's sad to see members leave, but ultimately, everyone -- the local, the new local-turned-NPC group, and myself are all happy with the way things turned out. Sometimes things happen for the best. All you can do is wish them well and move on with your own chapter.

[SigPhiSunshine]

Originally posted by texas*princess

I was once a member of a local sorority, ...

I transferred before they colonized with a NPC group and found my home in ADPi up here.

How did you go from being in a local to a national. I thought that no matter what, even if you quit and turn in your letters and everyhing else, you can NEVER join a national after being in another sorority

[rayray]

Those rules dont apply to local orgs. only to national. I did the same thing. I was in a local then transferred and now in a national.
And on the topic of Local orgs the founders of my local org. did the same thing. 3 of them were initiated members of a national sorority. During their time one was having problems with her grades and rather then her sisters (not the other 2 girls) helping her they didnt want her to be apart of the organization anymore. So the 3 of them dropped and formed thier own group along with 5 other women. The sorority is only 4 1/2 years old but when i was there it was amazing to see how 8 women created a wonderful org and i wish them all the best.

I dont think its shady. some people realize that certain things arent for them. And exactly what texas-princess said just wish them well and continue with your own group.

Originally posted by SigPhiSunshine
How did you go from being in a local to a national. I thought that no matter what, even if you quit and turn in your letters and everyhing else, you can NEVER join a national after being in another sorority

A) If you were initiated into a local, it is possible to be initiated into an NPC sorority should you decide to disaffiliate from your local.

B) If you are intiated into an NPC sorority, you cannot be initiated into *ANOTHER* NPC sorority.

C) If you are initiated into an NPC sorority, it is possible to initiate into a local sorority should you decide to disaffiliate from the NPC sorority.

People have their own reasons why they'd do A or C. It's up to them to do what they want so that they feel comfortable in their home.

[UCFStefanie]

Also too think about it this way.

Some females might find that they long for sisterhood and to have a connection with other members but have been initiated into an NPC organization.

Some new members go to certain chapters for the wrong reasons (IE best friend was rushing that chapter, its the "best chapter on campus", mom was a member of that chapter, etc) because they did not examine what they needed as a person. Sometimes they realize that a year later. SO without being able to join the "right" NPC organization they form their own local.

I dont think that it is fishy. I think if we would ever be able to see their ritual it would look a lot like the ritual of their previous organization and that could be taken as a compliment.

[shadokat]

She could join an NPC if she disaffiliated with a local. If she transferred from her old school to her new school, being a new member of the colony, but not initiated, she could also rush and join a new sorority at her new school.

Originally posted by SigPhiSunshine
How did you go from being in a local to a national. I thought that no matter what, even if you quit and turn in your letters and everyhing else, you can NEVER join a national after being in another sorority

As for these other women forming their own sorority after disaffiliating from your chapter, I don't think it's a bad thing. Maybe they didn't find the fit with your chapter that they thought they would, and so they decided a Latina sorority would be better.

[ISUKappa]

Although I can understand that your chapter may be disappointed or have some hurt feelings that these ladies chose to deactivate and are now starting a new org, it may simply be a better fit for them. I would think it would be better to have a few girls who are happy in their new org and are strengthening the Greek community as a whole rather than a few unhappy girls who aren't adding anything to either their org or the community.

And they're not starting a local from scratch and blatantly appropriating things from your chapter or ritual, right? So it could be worse.

[Little E]

We had this unreal rush one year and ended up w/a pledge class the size of our entire sorority, 25 women. We didn't know what to do, so to be honest we have to take some blame. However, kinda spured by one woman, a few of them felt that AST wasn't 'national' enough for them. They really wanted to be members of a VERY large national organization. So they dropped formed a local and are trying to get picked up by an NPC. However the other local is currently fighting them tooth and nail, because they don't want to be changed. Anyhow, long story, short, in the long run, it was better for us to lose the women who wanted Greek looking letters. I'd cut your losses and move on, you don't want the drama of being upset. Be the bigger women.

[PGHLady]

Originally posted by OohTeenyWahine


B) If you are intiated into an NPC sorority, you cannot be initiated into *ANOTHER* NPC sorority.

If someone disaffiliates from an NPC sorority, helps to establish a local, and the local decides to try to be picked up by...

1. that person's former NPC, or
2. another NPC

... would that former NPC member have to quit the local? Seems so, but what a sad and difficult situation that would be.

Regarding locals whose intention from the start is to be picked up by an NPC sorority... How are they different from a local that (at least in the beginning) intends to be just a local? How can you create and have faith in your traditions, symbols and rituals if you hope/intend to someday give them up for that of an NPC? And the new traditions/symbols/rituals/etc. might be so different from that of the original local... would you risk losing the sisterhood and togetherness that you already had?

PGHLady

[fifi225]

Originally posted by UCFStefanie
Also too think about it this way.

Some females might find that they long for sisterhood and to have a connection with other members but have been initiated into an NPC organization.

There's a crazy shady group on our campus lol. Remind me sometime, i'll tell you about them.

[LatinaAlumna]

I think it's shady that this Latina sorority would accept ladies who were already initiated into another organization, period. I hear about this frequently, and I'll never understand why some groups allow it. I would not want "sorority hoppers" in my organization. I also don't agree with people leaving their organization especially if the sorority is national, because the sorority is bigger than just the chapter someone is initiated at. They probably could have found other ways to be involved if they were not getting along with members of their local chapter.

[texas*princess]

Originally posted by SigPhiSunshine
How did you go from being in a local to a national. I thought that no matter what, even if you quit and turn in your letters and everyhing else, you can NEVER join a national after being in another sorority

Like people have already explained, it's possible as long as they are disaffiliated. I never joined the colony that started.. the colony started after I left.... I just helped my friends start the local interest group that eventually became the colony.

[azdtaxi]

Okay so its actually like a Latina sorority that is national but not panhellenic ... maybe that explains it better ... I am alum now but I know that some of the girls are upset because they didn't think this could happen and as I tried to explain to them why it could it was upsetting that this Latina national org wouldnt care that at one point they were in a national panhellenic sorority.

[Tom Earp]

I guess My Question would be, why did they leave and Join another Sorority? Okay, so it is Latino. I take it They may have been Latino or another Culture.

Maybe it is time to look unto yourselves to see what the problem is, not at them?