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Old 10-20-2004, 12:47 PM
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Thumbs down Advertisers chicken out.

I don't get this mess at all. I understand the needs for morals and values, but can somebody get a stick out of their butts?


NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Walt Disney Co.'s best shot at reviving its sickly ABC network may have plenty of skin and sin, but "Desperate Housewives" has lost a few advertisers as a result.

Tyson Foods, Lowe's Cos., and Kellogg have all aired spots on the weekly prime time soap that debuted late last month. And none plan to air any more.

Officials at two of the advertisers -- Arkansas-based Tyson Foods (unchanged at $15.15, Research) and North Carolina-based Lowe's Companies (up $0.05 to $56.45, Research) -- confirmed that the decision against buying more commercial time on "Desperate Housewives" was based on the hit show's cheeky script, which centers on a tony suburban neighborhood where four middle-aged women live in misery and a fifth who committed suicide narrates from the grave.

In all, five companies -- Tyson, Lowe's, Kellogg and frozen meal makers ConAgra Foods and Pinnacle Foods Group -- have come under attack in the last week by the American Family Association , a self-described "traditional family values" group that has over the years been a relentless critic of the entertainment industry.

While acknowledging the early defections, ABC officials insisted that the show has been attracting more advertisers, not fewer.

Through two of its member Web sites, the American Family Association has rallied thousands of followers, who last week began inundating the e-mail servers and phone lines at Tyson, Lowe's and ConAgra.

Within hours, Lowe's and Tyson notified the association that they were pulling out of any future advertising on the show, said Randy Sharp, the special projects editor for the American Family Association and the editor of its OneMillionMoms.com and OneMillionDads.com

Gary Michaelson, a Tyson spokesman, said the company bought air time on one episode before deciding against purchasing more. "The show is not consistent with our core values, which focus on operating with integrity and trust in all we do," he said.

At Lowe's, the company did not know that Whirlpool, the largest U.S. home appliance maker whose ads feature the Lowe's logo, was a sponsor until an ad appeared on "Desperate Housewives."

Lowe's officials were not pleased.

"Our advertising guidelines are such that Lowe's chooses not to advertise in controversial programming, including programming with gratuitous sex and violence," said Chris Ahearn, Lowe's director of public relations. She said steps have since been taken to avoid a similar breach of company policy in the future.

Calls to ConAgra were not returned. Sharp claimed victory, however, noting that the Omaha, Neb.-maker of Chef Boyardee, Healthy Choice and other packaged foods did not advertise on a recent episode of "Desperate Housewives." Sharp said ConAgra (Research) got about 36,000 e-mails last week from American Family Association members.

This week the association's membership set its sights on breakfast cereal maker Kellogg and Pinnacle Foods, the producer of Swanson frozen foods and Vlasic pickles. A Kellogg spokeswoman confirmed that the company, which aired one ad on "Desperate Housewives," is not planning to buy more commercial time on the show.

A call to Pinnacle Foods was not returned.

More bluff than bluster?
But there's reason to think the campaign against advertisers is much ado about nothing.

Headline-grabbing matchups like this can be a boon to networks because of the additional viewers who tune in just to see what all the fuss is about, said Steve Craig, a professor at the University of North Texas and an expert on controversial programming.

One oft-cited example is "Married...With Children," the parody of family life that ran on Fox from 1987 until 1997. When a Michigan housewife mounted a heavily-publicized boycott of the show, some companies that initially backed off from advertising later returned, lured by a ratings bump that coincided with the dustup.

"I don't think (Fox executives) were all that upset about the publicity," said Craig. And neither, he opined, are ABC officials today.

"Desperate Housewives" is already an overnight smash, ranked among the top prime time shows since its Sept. 26 premiere. The strong ratings are a key reason why television pundits say that ABC, bleeding money and stuck at No. 4 in prime time ratings, may finally be turning itself around.

One key measure: rates for a 30-second spot on the show have doubled, to roughly $300,000, since the initial round of ads were sold in May, two television advertising trade journals reported this week.

ABC officials sounded sanguine in a statement released to CNN/Money that proclaimed "Desperate Housewives" to be the TV season's No. 1 new show. "We are seeing tremendous demand from advertisers for the show," they said.

Sharp, the American Family Association official, acknowledged that the anti-"Desperate Housewives" campaign has so far targeted advertisers that seem susceptible to outside pressure.

"We usually look at the list of advertisers and we go (after) those that are considered family-friendly companies," said Sharp. "These folks know that moms buy their frozen products."

Sharp said he plans to keep the heat on ABC and not just because of "Desperate Housewives." Another ABC program that he says parents are complaining about: "Life As We Know It," a drama about three teenage boys described by ABC as "hormone-charged."

"The show is nothing but sex, sex, sex," said Sharp. "We're really looking hard at it."

The goods news for Sharp is, "Life As We Know It" has struggled in its Thursday night time slot opposite CBS and NBC's strong lineup. The bad news is, a little controversy might be exactly what the show -- and ABC -- is looking for.

SAUCY DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES UPSET THE ADVERTISERS


One of America's leading home improvement chains has pulled out of advertising during new hit show DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES - because the series is too racy.

Just three weeks into its run, the titillating ABC Sunday night show - which stars TERI HATCHER - has struck ratings gold, but many advertisers are less than happy with the racy content.

And now bosses of furniture and do-it-yourself store LOWE'S has insisted their ads are pulled from the show's commercial breaks.

A Lowe's spokesperson says, "We have a strict advertising policy against running in shows that contain gratuitous sex or violence and this is on that feel through the cracks."

Other advertisers are expected to follow suit as the series heats up with more sex scenes and suggestive scripts, but ABC bosses are far from worried.

In a statement, they say, "We are seeing tremendous demand from advertisers for the show."
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Old 10-25-2004, 05:08 PM
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Anyone watch last night?!! The highlights (for me):

1. Bree pulling up a chair and lecturing her kid in the middle of the strip club!...then later referring to it as one of her "finest moments"!

2. Carlos, the cable guy, and the accidental hate crime!

3. Terry Hatcher telling off Mrs. Hooper!

I love it!
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Old 10-25-2004, 07:03 PM
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I missed Susan telling Mrs. Hooper off.

Re: advertisers
Well, if they don't want to be associated with shows that deal with sex and violence, they can always advertise exclusively on the kiddy channels (wait, does cartoon/futuristic violence count?) or on cable channels.

And I'm sorry, what is a "traditional American Family" and what are their values? Wouldn't that be specific to that family?

And aren't teenagers driven by sex at some point during those years?

Boy, some adults are stupid.
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Old 10-25-2004, 07:24 PM
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Anyone watch last night?!! The highlights (for me):

1. Bree pulling up a chair and lecturing her kid in the middle of the strip club!...then later referring to it as one of her "finest moments"!

2. Carlos, the cable guy, and the accidental hate crime!

3. Terry Hatcher telling off Mrs. Hooper!

I love it!
Co-Sign!

Mrs. Hooper is another Alice Kravitz (to another level) from 'Bewitched'. She gets on MY nerves.

I was LMAO when the widower came to tell the ladies that his wife sent messages to herself. HE thought they believed him, but they were like ...but ultimately LOL

I'm glad (still haven't gotten all the names down) the mother with the HORRIBLE kids did NOT resort to giving the kids PILLS to control their behavior. All she needs is a BELT, SLIPPER, SHOE, etc. (um no, I DIDN'T go there!)
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Old 10-25-2004, 07:47 PM
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AKA2d.. LAWD... lol. A healthy dose of parental fear can reduce some aspects of ADHD.. lol.

I wanna be Gabrielle when I grow up!!lol
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Old 10-25-2004, 08:18 PM
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But I'm mad that Susan (is that Teri Hatcher's character's name?) was gonna give her ticket to Edie (Mrs. Huber's daughter). . . I guess she had to do what she had to do in order to get the measuring cup. I hope she and Mike eventually hook up! And I also love how she dismissed Mrs. Huber!
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Old 10-25-2004, 09:57 PM
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But I'm mad that Susan (is that Teri Hatcher's character's name?) was gonna give her ticket to Edie (Mrs. Huber's daughter). . . I guess she had to do what she had to do in order to get the measuring cup. I hope she and Mike eventually hook up! And I also love how she dismissed Mrs. Huber!
Noooo, I don't want her to hook up with Mike. We don't know what his investigative intentions are yet.
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Old 10-25-2004, 10:33 PM
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GURL, I was thinking the same thing! Someone needs to give them a "time out" right across their butts!
Belt, slipper, shoe, wooden spoon, switch...

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I'm glad (still haven't gotten all the names down) the mother with the HORRIBLE kids did NOT resort to giving the kids PILLS to control their behavior. All she needs is a BELT, SLIPPER, SHOE, etc. (um no, I DIDN'T go there!)
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Old 10-26-2004, 11:44 AM
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First, AKA2d's post had me laughing and Jill's post brought back memories when she mentioned switch. Lord, ain't nothing worse than a wet switch! I didn't know Edie was Mrs. Huber's daughter. I just thought they were neighbors. It's sometimes difficult looking at Nicolette now compared to when she was the hottest thing on Knot's Landing for a while.
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Old 10-26-2004, 12:38 PM
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Mrs. Huber and Edie are not mother and daughter; they are just neighbors.

Since ep #1 I have been an advocate of Lynette being a more HANDS ON type of parent.
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Old 10-26-2004, 12:45 PM
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First, AKA2d's post had me laughing and Jill's post brought back memories when she mentioned switch. Lord, ain't nothing worse than a wet switch! I didn't know Edie was Mrs. Huber's daughter. I just thought they were neighbors. It's sometimes difficult looking at Nicolette now compared to when she was the hottest thing on Knot's Landing for a while.
botox CAN be a bad thing.. to act, doesn't a person need facial expressions?
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Old 10-26-2004, 12:55 PM
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Don't forget to read Television Without Pity's commentary on the show as well.

http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com
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Old 10-28-2004, 02:41 PM
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Eva Longoria was on "Good Morning, America" and said that the gardener is supposed to be a 17 year old boy!

Also, one of the biggest questions people have about the show is how she can be a former supermodel when she is only 5'2".
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Old 10-29-2004, 03:38 PM
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Exclamation SPOILER ALERT!!!

Only click this if you want to read a BIG SPOILER about the show.

ALERT - - Don't click it, read it and then get disapointed that it's a spoiler, because I've put out the warning!

http://www.usatoday.com/life/televis...spoilers_x.htm
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Old 11-01-2004, 06:20 PM
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What's really going on with Zach? He's whippin' his father's behind.

Gabriella's mom-n-law: I know what Gabbie is doing is wrong, but the meddlin' mom-n-law needs to go. LMAO @ the mall...

The twins at the school: Lawd, she had them working like hebrew slaves just so she could get them "calm".
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