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Old 10-13-2004, 01:52 AM
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I'm still watching it...but I'm LOVING IT!!! I'm sitting here crying at the Tupac tribute. Man, I love him!! He's the bomb!!!

Vivica looks a hot mess. They really didn't need a host. Well, they didn't need her there.

As for VH1. The first rap video they showed was Blondie's Rapture. I believe that VH1 started playing rap because it infiltrated there countdowns...they didn't have the choice. Also, after Viacom acquired MTV, VH1, and BET, they now have access to all these videos.

ETA: Why did Taye Diggs look like Denzel in Malcolm X with the hat and glasses combo.

ETAA: What happened to Mos Def???

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Old 10-13-2004, 08:23 AM
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I'm old as hell - what did Mos Def sing?
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Old 10-13-2004, 10:25 AM
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Originally posted by abaici
I'm still watching it...but I'm LOVING IT!!! I'm sitting here crying at the Tupac tribute. Man, I love him!! He's the bomb!!!

Vivica looks a hot mess. They really didn't need a host. Well, they didn't need her there.

As for VH1. The first rap video they showed was Blondie's Rapture. I believe that VH1 started playing rap because it infiltrated there countdowns...they didn't have the choice. Also, after Viacom acquired MTV, VH1, and BET, they now have access to all these videos.

ETA: Why did Taye Diggs look like Denzel in Malcolm X with the hat and glasses combo.

ETAA: What happened to Mos Def???
I thought Mos Def was supposed to be Vivvy's co-host too.

They really didn't need Vivvy there. If they really needed a host, I thought MC Lyte should have been hosting and Vivvy doing the behind stage commentary. I mean, really...MC Lyte IS apart of hip hop history.

My favorite parts were when Doug E. Fresh did the tribute to Kool Herc and DJ Hollywood and Nas' performance with his father.

The show was ok. I understand they couldn't honor EVERYONE that has influenced hip hop within 2 hours.
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Old 10-13-2004, 11:16 AM
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I loved it! Everyone looked like they were having so much fun. I wondered how they were going to honor all pioneers & so I was glad to see that they would be doing it next year. I also liked that it was not a "come and get a statue & make a speech" awards show. Rather the honorees were truly honored.
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Old 10-13-2004, 11:27 AM
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My favorite parts were when Doug E. Fresh did the tribute to Kool Herc and DJ Hollywood and Nas' performance with his father.
These were my favorites parts too, along with the tribute to Tupac. abaici we are >>here<< on Tupac. I didn't realize that it's been 8 years already. I'm glad to see that his mom is doing something constructive with all the money that he continues to make.

The only part of the show I didn't like, besides Vivica, was that the Beastie Boys seemed to be on the show every 5 minutes. Any picks on who they'll honor next year? My early thoughts are the Beastie Boys, LL Cool J, and Biggie.
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Old 10-13-2004, 01:14 PM
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Did Mos back out after he found out who his co ho I mean cohost was going to be? Remy Martin: You should have "rocked away from that weave you was sporting. You were just a big ole' mess!
I loved PE's performance! I missed Tupac's tribute but I know it will be on again soon.
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Old 10-13-2004, 01:29 PM
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Remy's weave did look a hot mess. But then again, she always looks like a hot mess to me. And yes, it will probably be on all weekend. They played it back-to-back last night.
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Old 10-13-2004, 01:31 PM
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I didn't see it. Was it a typical awards show?
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Old 10-13-2004, 01:36 PM
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I didn't see it. Was it a typical awards show?
No, it wasn't. All of the presenters were influenced or were (are) a part of hip-hop. All of the honorees had a short videotaped piece which showed why they were an influential part of Hip-Hop, through either their own words or the words of other people. The show was really performance driven. There were at least 7 or 8, I think.
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Old 10-13-2004, 02:10 PM
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I missed it. I'm not worried because they will probably repeat it a dozen times this month.

I watched the LL Cool J show they aired a few nights ago. It brought me back to my childhood in Queens.
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Old 10-13-2004, 02:11 PM
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Remy's weave did look a hot mess. But then again, she always looks like a hot mess to me. And yes, it will probably be on all weekend. They played it back-to-back last night.
Why did she remind me of Lil' Kim?? This whole 2 toned weave is getting out of hand.
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Old 10-13-2004, 03:55 PM
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I'm still watching it...but I'm LOVING IT!!! I'm sitting here crying at the Tupac tribute. Man, I love him!! He's the bomb!!!

Vivica looks a hot mess. They really didn't need a host. Well, they didn't need her there.

As for VH1. The first rap video they showed was Blondie's Rapture. I believe that VH1 started playing rap because it infiltrated there countdowns...they didn't have the choice. Also, after Viacom acquired MTV, VH1, and BET, they now have access to all these videos.

ETA: Why did Taye Diggs look like Denzel in Malcolm X with the hat and glasses combo.

ETAA: What happened to Mos Def???
Abaici,

There was another special on VH-1 about stars who make more money in death then when they were alive. Tupac was one they featured.
After Pac died, Jada and Jasmine (Guy) told Pac's mom to hurry up and get a lawyer for his estate because people may come after his estate. Well, as we all know, that Suge Knight stole or redirected Pac's money that he made while on Death Row. He was even paying for Nate Doggs child support (I didn't know this!!!), plus paying for other items for Death Row, but none of it was going into his account. Then Pac's father came after his mother because she stated in court documents that she was his only parental unit. So she paid him $900,000 and has not heard from him since and he never had a part of Tupac's life. So she paid him off. It was a very good show!
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Old 10-15-2004, 10:56 PM
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Was that VH1, or MTV. I'm watching the 22 Greatest MC's on MTV2. How in the HELL did Nelly get on the list??? How is he above some real MC's. Again, I'm on #7. I think I'm gonna be mad. They are continuously reminding people that it was viewer's choice. Cause, this is some BS!!!
They had a list. Run DMC was VH1's #1 Emcees. Da hell? And why do people keep worshipping pac? I am dead serious now when I say he's the most overrated rapper EVER!

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Old 10-16-2004, 03:17 PM
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I am dead serious now when I say he's the most overrated rapper EVER!
We will just have to agree to disagree. Now, I'm not coming from the perspective of the "clear people" who jocked him. Tupac was more than just a rapper. That's why I put him on a little higher pedestal than other rappers. Like, I think it's blasphemous to compare him to Biggie. That's like comparing apples and oranges. Pac had a political consciousness that his contemporaries didn't have. Not in the Chuck D kinda way, but the way that the guy who lives down the block from you views the world. I think he brought something different to the table. When I think about the contributions and influence of Tupac, I come from an academic point of view. But, I also remember me as a teenager watching the BET Show with Tonya Hart and listening to a 19-year old 2PAC speak. I remember thinking, "Dang, I've never seen ANYONE like him before!"


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Old 10-17-2004, 01:01 PM
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When I think about the contributions and influence of Tupac, I come from an academic point of view.

What were his contributions? I've never bought any of Tupac's albums and what I knew of him was constructed from his interviews and some of his videos. I actually would like to understand more about him and why he has become this larger than life figure. No disrespect but to me just another rapper who happened to have his life taken away from him too soon. I would like to see and understand what it is his fans see.


As for the show it is my hope that if they have another one that women will play an integral part of it and while rap is pretty much male dominated (and a LOT of times misogyistic) there were some sistas who kicked down doors.
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