Cheney on economic numbers: Don’t forget about eBay

[The1calledTKE]

Using Ebay as a source of economic growth or improvement is just stupid. What next, Coca Cola sold more coke this month the economy is better now.



Indicators measure the nation’s unemployment rate, consumer spending and other economic milestones, but Vice President Dick Cheney says it misses the hundreds of thousands who make money selling on eBay.

“That’s a source that didn’t even exist 10 years ago,” Cheney told an audience in Cincinnati on Thursday. “Four hundred thousand people make some money trading on eBay.”

San Jose, Calif.-based eBay Inc. is an Internet auction site where anyone can sell just about anything, including clothing, cell phones, jewelry, memorabilia, trinkets and automobiles.

Democratic vice presidential candidate John Edwards responded that Cheney’s comments show how “out of touch” he and President Bush are with the economy.

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“If we only included bake sales and how much money kids make at lemonade stands, this economy would really be cooking,” Edwards said in a statement.

http://www.qctimes.com/internal.php?...s&c=31,1034852

There you go Rudey, here is a anti Bush article.

[Rudey]

You're a little bitch lol

OK I gotta go get a haircut and then run some errands. Remember I still have some tricks up my sleeve as well.

-Rudey

[The1calledTKE]

I love Edward's reply to this in a later statement.

"If we only included bake sales and how much money kids make at lemonade stands, this economy would really be cooking," John Edwards

[AGDee]

Don't forget garage sales! Are you considered self-employed if you held a garage sale this year? Our unemployment numbers could look great if we counted those too....

I wonder if the homeless guys in their viaduct condos have wireless internet so they can sell their ratty weatherworn blankets on Ebay...

[Rudey]

Why is it that Democrats hate small business owners?

I guess guys like Edwards can afford to hate guys struggling to make a living on their own because they got rich taking people's money through lawsuits.

Why is that?

The fact is that eBay is a huge business community. It is the embodiment of growth of sales and revenue on the internet. In fact if you're on ebay you would notice that large corporations like Toyota and IBM partner with it. The stock level of ebay aslone has increased. But I guess Democrats have to hate small businesses. Perhaps Edwards would like to have mentioned how strong sales are on the internet that Congress has to consider the issue of whether or not to tax internet sales?

Why is it that Democrats are so awful with understanding anything that has to do with the American economy and with numbers that they have to lie and create scenarios?

It's funny that Democrats and Kerry tried to paint the economy now as bad using a measure that would make the awful poor time of Carter seem like a rip roaring economy.

Why do Democrats lie?

-Rudey

[The1calledTKE]

Originally posted by Rudey
Why is it that Democrats hate small business owners?

I guess guys like Edwards can afford to hate guys struggling to make a living on their own because they got rich taking people's money through lawsuits.

Why is that?

The fact is that eBay is a huge business community. It is the embodiment of growth of sales and revenue on the internet. In fact if you're on ebay you would notice that large corporations like Toyota and IBM partner with it. The stock level of ebay aslone has increased. But I guess Democrats have to hate small businesses. Perhaps Edwards would like to have mentioned how strong sales are on the internet that Congress has to consider the issue of whether or not to tax internet sales?

Why is it that Democrats are so awful with understanding anything that has to do with the American economy and with numbers that they have to lie and create scenarios?

It's funny that Democrats and Kerry tried to paint the economy now as bad using a measure that would make the awful poor time of Carter seem like a rip roaring economy.

Why do Democrats lie?

-Rudey

Ah so Ebay is a major economic indicator now and we should base how well our economy is doing by how well ebay is doing. Forget the nation as a whole or companies as a whole.

Democrats do not hate small business. I don't believe Bush's tax cuts helped small business but helped big buisness. This is a opinion not stating as fact. If anyone can post figures proving or disproving the previous statement from a site with a good rep preferably non biased, that would be great. Corporations such as Wal-Mart kill small business.

I do not think Edward's statement was a stab at small business but a jab about how desperate the Bush campaign is digging to prove the economy is good despite the job market being still on the down side. Figures improve one month then go down the next.

And no I do not claim to be an expert on economics, its just how I feel about the situation.

10 Nobel economists endorse Kerry (click to read)

Democrats lie the same reason Republicans lie. For political and sometimes person gain.

[hoosier]

"Corporations such as Wal-Mart kill small business."

Similarly, horseless carriages and Henry Ford killed the buggy whip industry.

Sam Walton's family has given more money to the GOP than any other bunch in recent years, and it has gotten them a lot of crap from Dem politicians and their lackeys. If they closed Perimeter Mall's 110 stores, tore it down, and replaced it with a single Wal-Mart store, the neighborhood Dem activists, the Dem politicians, and the unions would oppose it "because it would add too much traffic, harm children, and polute the streams."

Wal-Mart probably helps small businesses, since it employs a lot of people and pays a lot of wages. Small business which offer something these people want, and offer good service, likely prosper.

[The1calledTKE]

Originally posted by hoosier
If they closed Perimeter Mall's 110 stores, tore it down, and replaced it with a single Wal-Mart store, the neighborhood Dem activists, the Dem politicians, and the unions would oppose it "because it would add too much traffic, harm children, and polute the streams."

Wal-Mart probably helps small businesses, since it employs a lot of people and pays a lot of wages. Small business which offer something these people want, and offer good service, likely prosper. [/B]

If they tore down 110 stores more jobs would be lost than gained by building a Walmart. If you have read the paper or watched the news in the past few years Wal-mart has had trouble with paying people wages and making people clock out but still work. But hey you get some items for cheap and the Waltons donate to your party, how nice for you.

[Rudey]

Now, now young man...you opened up on the topic, no need to run away and instead post a link to 10 economists. I mean it is a given that most economists strongly believe in lowering taxes to benefit the economy and thus Republicans usually get support from economists in terms of lowering taxes.

You, a Democrat claimed Ebay is a major economic indicator. Now if Democrats understood Economics they would understand that the internet is just another way to increase sales - eBay is a very large community to increase sales - hence the reason why large corporations sell on there.

So really, thank you for posting this news. We see that Republicans are trying to understand how the world is changing and how to increase the growth of American businesses while Democrats are just busy reacting (never being proactive) to Republicans and insulting Republicans.

-Rudey
--I think I'm very good at this game Brandon.

Originally posted by The1calledTKE
Ah so Ebay is a major economic indicator now and we should base how well our economy is doing by how well ebay is doing. Forget the nation as a whole or companies as a whole.

Democrats do not hate small business. I don't believe Bush's tax cuts helped small business but helped big buisness. This is a opinion not stating as fact. If anyone can post figures proving or disproving the previous statement from a site with a good rep preferably non biased, that would be great. Corporations such as Wal-Mart kill small business.

I do not think Edward's statement was a stab at small business but a jab about how desperate the Bush campaign is digging to prove the economy is good despite the job market being still on the down side. Figures improve one month then go down the next.

And no I do not claim to be an expert on economics, its just how I feel about the situation.

10 Nobel economists endorse Kerry (click to read)

Democrats lie the same reason Republicans lie. For political and sometimes person gain.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by The1calledTKE
If they tore down 110 stores more jobs would be lost than gained by building a Walmart. If you have read the paper or watched the news in the past few years Wal-mart has had trouble with paying people wages and making people clock out but still work. But hey you get some items for cheap and the Waltons donate to your party, how nice for you.

Now now, if you'd like to talk about Walmart there are other threads. No need to digress from how bad Democrats are for the economy by talking about Walmart.

-Rudey

[The1calledTKE]

Originally posted by Rudey
You, a Democrat claimed Ebay is a major economic indicator.

I didn't claim that. I asked is it a major indicator in a sarcastic way. Touting ebay as proof the economy is better is a joke. So if ebay does well but other big industries don't, is the economy still good? Cheney was just reaching for "proof", that doesn't mean " Republicans are trying to understand how the world is changing and how to increase the growth of American businesses". The internet and ebay have been around a long time. The economy did quite well on it until the bubble burst. To ebay's credit they did survive the burst.

And yes and in my opinion lowering taxes can benefit corporations if people make enough to get the tax cuts and choose to spend the money they get to drive the economy. Bush's first tax cut backfired because most people saved their money because they were worried about the economy and their future.

I am not tring to sway your opinion. I am just stating my opinion. You may think its wrong, but honestly I doubt we will ever see eye to eye on certain issues. Economics is your field. You are going to believe what you see and deal with. You and I see things differently. Just because economics is your field doesn't mean everyone should agree with your views. That article I posted was just in reference that not all economist agree with you and I doubt those guys went to "bad schools".

[The1calledTKE]

Originally posted by Rudey
Now now, if you'd like to talk about Walmart there are other threads. No need to digress from how bad Democrats are for the economy by talking about Walmart.

-Rudey

Did you mean how bad Democrats don't know the economy, or are you saying Democrats are for a better economy? Or did you mean something entirely different?

[AGDee]

Originally posted by The1calledTKE
The internet and ebay have been around a long time.

And we can thank Al Gore for that...

<running and hiding now, before Rudey starts throwing things at me>

[The1calledTKE]

Originally posted by AGDee
And we can thank Al Gore for that...

<running and hiding now, before Rudey starts throwing things at me>

Al Gore is an internet machine. The bubble burst without him.

That was sarcasim for the sensitive folks.

[Rudey]

Now you're sweating.

The economy did well until the bubble burst? No, no. The economy did poorly. You see that was artificial and hence why it was a bubble. If it wasn't a bubble, the economy would have simply been doing well. now the economy corrected itself. Ebay is one of the few companies that emerged from the bubble and still grew as you even say. Ebay is a community that large international corporations sell through and it is much larger now than before. Cheney's message was on the internet and ebay as new outlets for sales. So we do appreciate your applause on this great Republican has shown one aspect of the economy's growth. Now let's look at this picture of how the economy has done better:



Increased growth of revenue from new sources is but one of many sources for the better economy. Look at that sonny.

So the question is, what is the motivation for Democrats wanting the economy to fail?

-Rudey

Originally posted by The1calledTKE
I didn't claim that. I asked is it a major indicator in a sarcastic way. Touting ebay as proof the economy is better is a joke. So if ebay does well but other big industries don't, is the economy still good? Cheney was just reaching for "proof", that doesn't mean " Republicans are trying to understand how the world is changing and how to increase the growth of American businesses". The internet and ebay have been around a long time. The economy did quite well on it until the bubble burst. To ebay's credit they did survive the burst.

And yes and in my opinion lowering taxes can benefit corporations if people make enough to get the tax cuts and choose to spend the money they get to drive the economy. Bush's first tax cut backfired because most people saved their money because they were worried about the economy and their future.

I am not tring to sway your opinion. I am just stating my opinion. You may think its wrong, but honestly I doubt we will ever see eye to eye on certain issues. Economics is your field. You are going to believe what you see and deal with. You and I see things differently. Just because economics is your field doesn't mean everyone should agree with your views. That article I posted was just in reference that not all economist agree with you and I doubt those guys went to "bad schools".