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Old 09-01-2004, 09:38 PM
IowaStatePhiPsi IowaStatePhiPsi is offline
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Angry Hostage situation in Russia

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,131060,00.html

BESLAN, Russia — Armed militants with explosives strapped to their bodies stormed a Russian school in a region bordering Chechnya on Wednesday, corralling hundreds of hostages -- many of them children -- into a gymnasium and threatening to blow up the building if surrounding Russian troops attacked. At least two people were killed, including a school parent.
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Old 09-01-2004, 09:56 PM
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It's awful what these murderers do. Just yesterday they blew up buses in Israel and killed 15 people.

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Old 09-01-2004, 10:39 PM
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What's the link between the two stories?
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Old 09-01-2004, 11:05 PM
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What's the link between the two stories?
Religion and terrorism.

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Old 09-01-2004, 11:08 PM
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How about nationalism and terrorism? I can buy that easier as overall reasons. But I'm not sure you can really link the two events.
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Old 09-01-2004, 11:14 PM
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How about nationalism and terrorism? I can buy that easier as overall reasons. But I'm not sure you can really link the two events.
How about religion, nationalism, and terrorism since it seems that they all have been mixed together in a large pot.

As for how events in Chechnya and Israel are linked - well it's funny that quite often there are Arabs training and fighting in Russia.

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Old 09-01-2004, 11:20 PM
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Seems to me the Chechnya thing is political. What's religious about it?

ETA, but in some cases I do agree about the pot you mention.
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Old 09-01-2004, 11:31 PM
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Seems to me the Chechnya thing is political. What's religious about it?

ETA, but in some cases I do agree about the pot you mention.
When there are Arabs fighting in Chechnya - a land far from theirs - is it about nationalism or religion?

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Old 09-01-2004, 11:48 PM
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Sad these terrorists have to use a school to further advance their agenda. These guys are no joke, will do anything.

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President Bush called Putin and "condemned the taking of hostages and the other terrorists attacks in Russia," White House spokeswoman Claire Buchan said. Bush offered "assistance" to Russia in dealing with the crisis if requested, but no request had been made so far, the White House said.
I'm sure we have guys from EUCOM watching the situation very closely.

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Old 09-02-2004, 12:03 AM
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Re: Hostage situation in Russia

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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,131060,00.html

BESLAN, Russia — Armed militants with explosives strapped to their bodies stormed a Russian school in a region bordering Chechnya on Wednesday, corralling hundreds of hostages -- many of them children -- into a gymnasium and threatening to blow up the building if surrounding Russian troops attacked. At least two people were killed, including a school parent.

As a teacher I can't even imagine having this happen at my school. We have some emergency preparedness procedures but not much. Stories like this...well, I'm just reminded of how blessed we are to live and work in the USA.
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Old 09-02-2004, 07:53 AM
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there was a letter in the ISU paper this morning saying that this situation in Russia is why teachers in the US should carry guns to school.
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Old 09-02-2004, 09:05 AM
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It's unfortunate, but Russia can't afford to give these guys what they want. If they do, two more schools will be taken over tommorow.

I say they simply execute the people that these guys want released. Then, their hostage situation becomes a moot point.
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Old 09-02-2004, 11:03 AM
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It's awful what these murderers do. Just yesterday they blew up buses in Israel and killed 15 people.

-Rudey
Chechens blew up buses in Israel?


Or is the Palestinians who are holding the hostages?



Its funny how every topic about terrorism reverts back to Arabs (even when talking about Chechnian rebels and Nepal ---Non-Arabs).

Please stop linking Islam into these ordeals because these acts are not supported by my religion, as it is against my religion to kill people (with exceptions of self-defense), ESPECIALLY CHILDREN!
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Old 09-02-2004, 11:09 AM
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Chechens blew up buses in Israel?


Or is the Palestinians who are holding the hostages?



Its funny how every topic about terrorism reverts back to Arabs (even when talking about Chechnian rebels and Nepal ---Non-Arabs).

Please stop linking Islam into these ordeals because these acts are not supported by my religion, as it is against my religion to kill people (with exceptions of self-defense), ESPECIALLY CHILDREN!
So you're saying that it's just by coincidence that about 99% of these terrorist acts are carried out by Muslims?

Can you not admit that there is something fundamentally flawed in the thinking of many people that share your religon?

I can certainly admit that the Crusaders who shared my religion and those who carried out the Spanish Inquisition were Catholic and at the time, there was something fundamentally wrong with my Church.

There are Muslim churches in the US that preach against the West and still consider the destruction of the World Trade Center to be a great day.

And you say these acts are not supported by your religion. That may be true. But there are factions within your religion who would disagree.
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Old 09-02-2004, 11:13 AM
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Chechens blew up buses in Israel?


Or is the Palestinians who are holding the hostages?



Its funny how every topic about terrorism reverts back to Arabs (even when talking about Chechnian rebels and Nepal ---Non-Arabs).

Please stop linking Islam into these ordeals because these acts are not supported by my religion, as it is against my religion to kill people (with exceptions of self-defense), ESPECIALLY CHILDREN!
OK quick English lessons. Nowhere did it say Chechens. It said murderers. Perhaps in Canada they teach you some of that there funny English.

And again, there are Arab fighters in Chechnya fighting alongside Chechens because they are Muslim. If you feel they are hijacking you're religion, well that's an issue for you to take up with them and not us.

As for Nepal, nobody has any clue what you're talking about.

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