Confessions Remix(not necessarily BY USHER) Advocating Violence and Abortion

[Sugar_N_Spice]

Originally posted by RedefinedDiva
Though I understand what you both are saying, if I had a song and was getting bad press or whatever about it, I would be adament about getting it pulled AND getting a public apology. It's one thing to let a remix slide that just has a lot of cursing and hatnot, but to promote beating babies out of people is a whole new ballgame. Considering that he all but said that he wanted nothing to do with the whole baby situation, I don't know what to say of the remix lyrics. Though I doubt that he would be promoting this, all I can do is shake my head. I will have to download it and hear it for myself.

Cosign! I haven't heard the remix, but if Joe Budden is really rhyming what he is accused of, then Usher should take some action to get it pulled.

[mccoyred]

Yes, if it was MY work being dragged through the mud, I would definitely speak out. However, the headlines that read:

Usher's Confessions Remix Advocating Abortion and Violence Against Women?
What has gotten into Usher?

should read

Joe Budden's remix of Usher's Confessions Advocating Abortion and Violence Against Women?

That's why I am saying Usher is getting bad press on something that I am sure he had nothing to do with!

Originally posted by RedefinedDiva
Though I understand what you both are saying, if I had a song and was getting bad press or whatever about it, I would be adament about getting it pulled AND getting a public apology. It's one thing to let a remix slide that just has a lot of cursing and hatnot, but to promote beating babies out of people is a whole new ballgame. Considering that he all but said that he wanted nothing to do with the whole baby situation, I don't know what to say of the remix lyrics. Though I doubt that he would be promoting this, all I can do is shake my head. I will have to download it and hear it for myself.

[Senusret I]

Originally posted by mccoyred
Yes, if it was MY work being dragged through the mud, I would definitely speak out. However, the headlines that read:

Usher's Confessions Remix Advocating Abortion and Violence Against Women?
What has gotten into Usher?

should read

Joe Budden's remix of Usher's Confessions Advocating Abortion and Violence Against Women?

That's why I am saying Usher is getting bad press on something that I am sure he had nothing to do with!

Basically.

[FeeFee]

Originally posted by mccoyred
Yes, if it was MY work being dragged through the mud, I would definitely speak out. However, the headlines that read:

Usher's Confessions Remix Advocating Abortion and Violence Against Women?
What has gotten into Usher?

should read

Joe Budden's remix of Usher's Confessions Advocating Abortion and Violence Against Women?

That's why I am saying Usher is getting bad press on something that I am sure he had nothing to do with!

Exactly, but we all know how the media uses different tactics to get people to read their stuff. Usher is obviously more popular than Joe Budden, so they'll use Usher's name in the headlines instead.

Someone needs to remind Joe Budden that doing something like beating a baby out of someone is a CRIME!!!!!

[blackerican]

I'm not a Usher fan....however alot of my LS's like his music. So, I listened to the 1st "Confessions". It was OK..... But to have a remix thats contains lyrics about harming and/or killing an innocent child....I have a problem with. I think that Usher should demand that it is pulled off the air. He reputation is at stake!!!

[Love_Spell_6]

This song was discussed on the Oreilly Factor last night, and just as the case when Mr. Oreilly came against Ludacris...people will see Mr. OReilly as a racist. Regardless of if its a white man pointing out what's wrong in our community..wrong is wrong. It is funny to me when people talk about airing our dirty laundry... when we do it everyday in our own music..whether we're singing it or buying the records. WHERE'S THE OUTRAGE???? Folks get all upset over silly incidences like "Blackface" at a college party...or Senator Trent Lott's comments....but when rappers in our own community do something like this..we cry freedom of speech AND dance to it when it comes on the radio!!! Now that's Butt Booty Backwards LOL

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,125071,00.html

[BirthaBlue4]

Originally posted by Love_Spell_6
This song was discussed on the Oreilly Factor last night, and just as the case when Mr. Oreilly came against Ludacris...people will see Mr. OReilly as a racist. Regardless of if its a white man pointing out what's wrong in our community..wrong is wrong. It is funny to me when people talk about airing our dirty laundry... when we do it everyday in our own music..whether we're singing it or buying the records. WHERE'S THE OUTRAGE???? Folks get all upset over silly incidences like "Blackface" at a college party...or Senator Trent Lott's comments....but when rappers in our own community do something like this..we cry freedom of speech AND dance to it when it comes on the radio!!! Now that's Butt Booty Backwards LOL

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,125071,00.html

YES!!!

Now, to be honest, I'm guilty of listening to songs with a good beat that have bad lyrics, but once I really listen to the song, I don't like it anymore. Now if I'd have heard this, it would have turned my stomach and I would have turned the dial.

Now, it wouldn't be freedom of speech if a white group made an album talking about how they don't like black people, or some other type of thing that went against us, like our own people's music. There'd be an uprising. It seems like Black folks want to be respected by the outside, but don't care about their own communities. That's not gonna fly. That's why folks were mad at Bill Cosby for tellin the truth.

[Senusret I]

Originally posted by Love_Spell_6
This song was discussed on the Oreilly Factor last night, and just as the case when Mr. Oreilly came against Ludacris...people will see Mr. OReilly as a racist. Regardless of if its a white man pointing out what's wrong in our community..wrong is wrong. It is funny to me when people talk about airing our dirty laundry... when we do it everyday in our own music..whether we're singing it or buying the records. WHERE'S THE OUTRAGE???? Folks get all upset over silly incidences like "Blackface" at a college party...or Senator Trent Lott's comments....but when rappers in our own community do something like this..we cry freedom of speech AND dance to it when it comes on the radio!!! Now that's Butt Booty Backwards LOL

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,125071,00.html

It really sounds like your opinion is sorta based on something that hasn't happened yet, if it ever happens. I don't think anyone in this thread, or that I even know, agrees with what Joe Budden is saying in the Confessions remix.

I think there IS outrage about this song....it just depends on what your media outlets are. If you depend on Fox News to see the outrage among people of color, then you won't see much.

The other thing is, this remix is NOT getting airplay in many places, and perhaps that's because the powers that be at radio stations have decided that this song crosses the line. I don't know.

But it does just seem like the things you are mentioning in your post are kind of out of left-field.

[Love_Spell_6]

Originally posted by Senusret I
It really sounds like your opinion is sorta based on something that hasn't happened yet, if it ever happens. I don't think anyone in this thread, or that I even know, agrees with what Joe Budden is saying in the Confessions remix.

I think there IS outrage about this song....it just depends on what your media outlets are. If you depend on Fox News to see the outrage among people of color, then you won't see much.

The other thing is, this remix is NOT getting airplay in many places, and perhaps that's because the powers that be at radio stations have decided that this song crosses the line. I don't know.

But it does just seem like the things you are mentioning in your post are kind of out of left-field.

Well if no one agreed with what these rappers say on their songs..they're record sales and popularity wouldn't be sky high.

The outrage doesn't depend on what my media outlets are sweety..as if you know what they are...when our community chooses to really come out against something..its well known...if anything...fox news is looking out for this type of things moreso that Bootylicious Entertainment Televeision News....

And I could see why my opinions would seem from left field to you and other GCers

[Senusret I]

You are generalizing "these rappers" when we are talking about Joe Budden.

I am not your sweety, you can call me Senusret.

I don't know what your media outlets are. I was speaking generally.

You generalize an awful lot.....there is no such thing as "THE black community." There are black communities in which some of us live and some of us do not. "Outrage" does not have to be lead by an entire community for change to happen.

And I pretty much think you are contrary for the sake of being contrary.

Originally posted by Love_Spell_6
Well if no one agreed with what these rappers say on their songs..they're record sales and popularity wouldn't be sky high.

The outrage doesn't depend on what my media outlets are sweety..as if you know what they are...when our community chooses to really come out against something..its well known...if anything...fox news is looking out for this type of things moreso that Bootylicious Entertainment Televeision News....

And I could see why my opinions would seem from left field to you and other GCers

[Love_Spell_6]

Originally posted by Senusret I
You are generalizing "these rappers" when we are talking about Joe Budden.

I am not your sweety, you can call me Senusret.

I don't know what your media outlets are. I was speaking generally.

You generalize an awful lot.....there is no such thing as "THE black community." There are black communities in which some of us live and some of us do not. "Outrage" does not have to be lead by an entire community for change to happen.

And I pretty much think you are contrary for the sake of being contrary.

riiight

[Senusret I]

Originally posted by Love_Spell_6
riiight

I'm glad we agree!

[_Opi_]

Those lyrics are distrubing.

I never like Budden, but now I have a strong reason too.

Usher is on my list too..