D-Day: A Memorial

[Rudey]

Today is the eve of the 60th anniversary of the Allied landings in Normandy. The French put aside their hostility momentarily to honor the Americans that saved them from speaking German.

-Rudey

[RACooper]

ah.. couldn't resist more French-bashing eh? Oh by the way Skippy... I would venture to guess that there are more Americans hostile to the French that vice-versa (most French dislike Bush, not America).

[Xylochick216]

I think we may be heading over to the D-Day Memorial to commemorate the day. God bless everyone who gave their lives or participated in D-Day and all of WWII.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by RACooper
I am stupid. I make guesses when I don't know anything. I am old and still in college. I never made the rank of officer in the military. My military was the Canadian military. People talk about their great experiences, and my only experience is being a grunt in the Canadian military. I can tell people how beheadings happen, do psychoanalysis, talk about history, tell the Americans who to vote for because I was a grunt in the Canadian military.

Actually your guesses are wrong time and time again grunt.

-Rudey

[PhiPsiRuss]

Originally posted by RACooper
I would venture to guess that there are more Americans hostile to the French that vice-versa

Actually, you're (again) wrong. The polls that I saw a year ago showed that Americans had opinions of European nations (except for france) that were much more favorable than the reverse view. Americans have a very negative view of France, but the French view of America was slightly more negative.

[Tom Earp]

Climb off of the Testarone ladder, please!

This is not the proper way to do honor the dead from all countrys who fought the Bosch or Hitler as it were!

Many Men and Women Died for what We have today!

[Rudey]

Perhaps you should tell RACooper to keep his trap shut and do some pushups.

We are talking about D-Day when we rescued France. Our boys died and fought valiantly to stop Hitler's aggression and the cheese eating surrender monkeys who surrendered to the Germans to protect pretty buildings and send masses to their deaths in concentration camps. We honor all who fought the evil from America,

-Rudey

[Tom Earp]

This was ment for both. Get it!

Men and women from both Countries died there along with those of other Countries.

This memorial is not the time to try to show yourselves.

[RACooper]

Originally posted by Rudey
Perhaps you should tell RACooper to keep his trap shut and do some pushups.

We are talking about D-Day when we rescued France. Our boys died and fought valiantly to stop Hitler's aggression and the cheese eating surrender monkeys who surrendered to the Germans to protect pretty buildings and send masses to their deaths in concentration camps. We honor all who fought the evil from America,

-Rudey

Awww.. muffin…. take some deep breaths before that little brain of your’s runs short of oxygen... good there yah go, now keep breathing… wouldn’t want you to tax to much

First your statement about the French being “cheese eating surrender monkeys” is thinly disguised bigotry.. and before you go off on one of your trademark rants.. think of what would happen if instead of you directing comments like that towards the French, you had directed them towards the British or Canadians or Americans or Black or Jewish or whatever.. you would be labeled a bigot.. so I don’t see the difference.

The statement that I made about the French-bashing was based on what I have heard over here (yep I'm in Normandy for D-Day). Believe it or not they get US international news broadcasts over here.. and the little hurtful petty attacks on there nation do tend to add up and generate bitterness... most have commented on the fact that they had not experienced out-right hate until France opposed the US over Iraq, and I have to say that I agree with this feeling.. heck I’m sure of GC history would reveal the same thing.

I have to say that there view of needless war is understandable given what you see just walking around here daily... memorials to many, many past wars with lists of the dead (picture having Vietnam Memorials lying around everywhere.. and just as poignant too). Most of the kids that I have talked to seem to be remarkably well informed about the sacrifices made by past generations, and they are more than willing to express their thanks too. I have seen them give flowers, kisses, hugs, personal letters, and some drinks too to the veterans here. When discussions have turned to politics (as they are want to do given the world situation) between the veterans and others there is a dissatisfaction with the current US ADMINISTRATION’S policies and attitudes towards the rest of the world… the French can differentiate between a nation’s leader and the people of that nation… why can’t you?

See these D-Day services are meant to honour the men and women of ALL nations that fought against tyranny, and the victims of this tyranny. We should be remembering not only the Americans, British, and Canadians who invaded the beaches, but all of the nations that participated in the fight for freedom.

Now I have to go to sleep so I can be up early for the services that start at dawn....

[Rudey]

As previously stated: We are talking about D-Day when we rescued France. Our boys died and fought valiantly to stop Hitler's aggression and the cheese eating surrender monkeys who surrendered to the Germans to protect pretty buildings and send masses to their deaths in concentration camps. We honor all who fought the evil from America,

-Rudey

Originally posted by RACooper
I am stupid. I can't stop showing the world that. Look at me a former useless grunt in a useless army from a useless country. I did not know that French animosity started towards Americans during WWII, even with DeGaulle, as most historians would agree because I am not just ignorant but stupid. I have not read a single book on that but I like to talk about it because hey I'm middle aged and still in college. So what if I compare religions and races to nationalities; it is well know that apples and oranges can be compared.

[decadence]

Today is the eve of the 60th anniversary of the Allied landings in Normandy. The French put aside their hostility momentarily to honor the Americans that saved them from speaking German.

The Allied forces were [amongst others] Americans AND Britons. It was not just Americans that 'saved the French from speaking German'.

eta: As a few others on this thread have mentioned above.

[AlphaSigOU]

Originally posted by decadence
The Allied forces were [amongst others] Americans AND Britons. It was not just Americans that 'saved the French from speaking German'.

eta: As a few others on this thread have mentioned above.

Well said!

[RACooper]

Rudey your comments are not only insulting to the French... but you also disparage and dishonour the memories of those many French that died during the D-Day operations and bombardment.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by RACooper
Rudey your comments are not only insulting to the French... but you also disparage and dishonour the memories of those many French that died during the D-Day operations and bombardment.

Again, you have trouble reading and aren't intelligent so instead I make you look dumb. Open up some books, and go to sleep and stop responding to me like you're on my nuts.

Yes Decadence, there were other countries in the Allied forces. The quote you took from me is a quote from the NYTimes actually. The quote was geared towards the majority population on here and while I did not mention other countries, I did not take aim at our allies either. The celebrations are talked about in this article . We are well aware of our ally England's sacrifices as well as those from other countries. Do I personally think France is fully accepting of those sacrifices from all our countries? No.

-Rudey

[RACooper]

Originally posted by Rudey
Again, you have trouble reading and aren't intelligent so instead I make you look dumb. Open up some books, and go to sleep and stop responding to me like you're on my nuts.

Yes Decadence, there were other countries in the Allied forces. The quote you took from me is a quote from the NYTimes actually. The quote was geared towards the majority population on here and while I did not mention other countries, I did not take aim at our allies either. The celebrations are talked about in this article . We are well aware of our ally England's sacrifices as well as those from other countries. Do I personally think France is fully accepting of those sacrifices from all our countries? No.

-Rudey

Perhaps if you opened some books too you night realize that some 20,000 French died in the D-Day operations as a result of the bombardment. The services in a few hours will nor only honour those that fought, but remember all of those who died....

While I would find it interesting to see what some American vets over here thought of your comments, I wouldn't be so crass as to show them your comments. I wouldn't dirty the day with your filth.

Further it may just be a Canadian thing, but many of the vets feel that they are forgotten by the American media (not the US vets) and their role in D-Day... after-all there were 5 beaches (2 US, 2UK, 1 Canadian) and the Canadians did advance the furthest inland that day (although not to their objectives).