Is frat life good for Man of God?

[frat2b]

I am about 1-2 months away from pledging Grad chapter...Omega
I have been around good bruhs and bad. But you don't know the organization fully until you are in
With all due respect I'd like to here from some saved Omegas or ministers.

Do you think that some of the activities that go on and that I will be undoubtedly asked to do, compromise my stand for God

I have heard some Bruhs say "no no problem".....and others say "yeah youre gonna have a hard time"
Secondly how do you handle such situations.

I expect a couple of different replies. I'm sure one of them will be"this is not a question to be asked in this forum".

But I'd just like to hear from Bruhs and Sorors all over the country.

[the411]

frat2b, you bring up a very touchy subject. And, you're right to expect a couple of different replies--ones that may fall on opposite ends of the spectrum. I would like to offer my personal take, based on my Christian walk and what I believe to be true of God's expectations. I do not and will not speak for any organization or individual.

I pledged a sorority in 1997 and thoroughly enjoyed black greek life. However, before and during that time, I had no relationship with God and did not know His Word. A couple of years ago, that all changed (that's why I haven't been posting on GreekChat like I used to). He saved me, called me into serious ministry, and has given me a major purpose for the kingdom. More importantly, I have received His Holy Spirit, who has helped me fully dissect and understand the divine Word of God. Given what the Spirit has revealed and what I now believe to be true, I have chosen not to be an active member of my sorority in order that I may be an active member of the Body of Christ. I have much biblical basis for my decision, but the following sealed it for me:

No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon. (Matthew 6:24)

I would be lying to you if I said that I regret my decision to pledge. I had some wonderful times and met some outstanding people. There are people on GC that I care about, which is why I still pop in every blue moon. Yet, even after I crossed, there was still a void in my heart because I knew I was not in God's will. Now that I am walking in synchronized steps with the Lord, I see the greek system and life in general (work, money, relationships, etc.) very differently. This may not be the case for others, and that's fine-- I can't be concerned with what works or doesn't work for anyone else but me. My relationship with God and my Christian walk are irrevocable, nonnegotiable, and nondebatable. A true Christian does not and will not ostracize another for being active, just as I expect others to respect my decision to be inactive.

At the end of the day, you have to make the decision that's best for you, given what you know and believe God's purpose, requirements, instructions, and expectations are for YOUR life.

Hit me up with a PM if you care to talk more on the subject

[preachdawg]

Hey Frat2b, you need to holla at me in my PM. You have some good questions, you may be giving to much info on this thread, especially if you are saying that you are about to pledge, when pledging is illegal. and please do not refer to men of Omega , and women of DST, as bruhs or sorors. I ain't trying to front you off, just trying to keep the bruhs, and sorors off yo behind.

[CrimsonTide4]

Originally posted by preachdawg
please do not refer to men of Omega , and women of DST, as bruhs or sorors. I ain't trying to front you off, just trying to keep the bruhs, and sorors off yo behind.

THANK YOU!!

[ladygreek]

Originally posted by the411

I have much biblical basis for my decision, but the following sealed it for me:

No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon. (Matthew 6:24)

Of course I respect your opinion, but I suspect that our sorors Bishop Vashti MacKenzie, Dr. JoAnn Browning, Rev. Pauli Murray, Minister Gwendolyn Boyd, Rev Shirley Ceasar, and others will respectfully disagree with your application of this scripture.

[treblk]

Originally posted by preachdawg
Hey Frat2b, you need to holla at me in my PM. You have some good questions, you may be giving to much info on this thread, especially if you are saying that you are about to pledge, when pledging is illegal. and please do not refer to men of Omega , and women of DST, as bruhs or sorors. I ain't trying to front you off, just trying to keep the bruhs, and sorors off yo behind.

I couldn't have said it better myself. If you are "about to pledge", then you have no "bruhs" and "sorors"

[Wolfman]

For one who has been a Christian beliver for 28 years, and an Omega man for almost 24 years, the question you posed is of utmost importance. If you know to whom you belong, and are willing to be a light, and don't compromise your basic convictions,Omega can be a great learning experience, a real laboratory on life. The truth is that if you live out the Omega ethic and principles,which many brothers don't fully come to grips with, then your Christian walk can be fruitful in Omega. But, as in everything else in life, you have choices,and you can choose to follow the examples of Omega men who are godly and serious about their faith, or fall in with those who aren't. When I was on line back in 1980 as a Lamp, an Omega Man took me aside from the misdt of the lineup to talk to me "off the record." He told me a couple of things that I believe,unbeknownst to him, the Holy Spirit was speaking through him:first, you will meet brothers that you will not like and second, Omega is a religious. These words were meant, I believe, to help me keep my bearings in the midst of the stuff I would face. But positivley, it takes maturity to be a real Omega man. And many Omega brothers don't avail themselves of the opportunities of growing spiritually by their associations with some great Omega men,who are men of God. (By the way, for a while I did as the young lady did and disassociated myself from Omega;but later I did come back to the fold. In retrospect,this had to do with settling,in a mature way, what the Lordship of Jesus Christ meant in my life at that stage of my development, and to see Omega from a different perspective:as a means of serving God and humanity.) Be prayerful and discerning, and do what the LORD puts on your heart. We are each made in the image of God, and that image is not a cookie cutter image. use this occasion(and quandry!) as a avenue of positive growth in God. And God leads by positve conviction which strengthens your volitional abilities;while Satan works by fear which distorts your ability to discern "good and evil":fear of not having options which can be a pull to sin, or fear of failure, of venturing into unknown territory. Be blessed!

[the411]

Originally posted by ladygreek
Of course I respect your opinion, but I suspect that our sorors Bishop Vashti MacKenzie, Dr. JoAnn Browning, Rev. Pauli Murray, Minister Gwendolyn Boyd, Rev Shirley Ceasar, and others will respectfully disagree with your application of this scripture.

Yes, I'm sure they will, and it's fine if they do. I walked away for what I believe to be true. They stay for what they believe to be true. But let's be clear-- a title, license, or church position does not necessarily mean someone is in the will of God. Still, in the end, God will judge and I do believe He's pretty pleased with me. I can't speak for how He feels about anyone else. Their walk is their walk and mine is mine. I can only pray that He's pleased with the way they are living their lives and conducting their ministries, since none of us can ever know that for sure.

Matthew 6:24 is one of MANY scriptures that are applicable. I would be glad to discuss my entire biblical rationale via PM with you or with the members you've listed above. Thanks for your feedback!

[frat2b]

I thank eveyone of you for your replies. I am still learning and I definitely did not mean any disrespect by the term sorors or bruhs.

I must admit, The next morning after I posted this thread I regreted it because I realized that I had given too much info and that it could come back in a bad way.

The men in the chapter that I will go before are very mature, intellegent and men of great integrity (hence my reason for wanting to be apart of them) many are officials in the church so it would be a great place for me.

It's really other members out side this chapter and the activities that I question.

I really enjoyed hearing both sides of the arguement. Let's keep the dialogue going.

Thanks to everyone.

[frat2b]

Correction, I meant to say was I am about to enter the membership selection process not pledge process.

I realize pledging has been outlawed please forgive me for this.

[ladygreek]

Originally posted by the411
Matthew 6:24 is one of MANY scriptures that are applicable. I would be glad to discuss my entire biblical rationale via PM with you or with the members you've listed above. Thanks for your feedback!

Not necessary but thanks for the offer.

[msn4med1975]

I can only comment on my limited experience but I will say the women that brought me into Delta Sigma Theta and the Delta women in my life have always kept me closer to God and in search of the truth with that respect. As others have said if you are living the ideals of your organization much of that means living as a good Christian would. Not a perfect one, but we all know there's only been one perfect individual, but as a good one. Our organziations, in my opinion, would not be allowed to prosper and sustain if they were not acting for the good of others as well as its members. That doesn't mean everyone in the organization will be doing what he or she should but truth be told none of us are ALWAYS doing what we should be doing.

I understand the411's position but I don't see Delta as a master, I only have one of those. Delta is my sisterhood and through that sisterhood I'm able to grow, give and become a better person daily in much the same way I am able to do as I study my Bible and get to know the Lord.

[the411]

Originally posted by msn4med1975
I understand the411's position but I don't see Delta as a master, I only have one of those. Delta is my sisterhood and through that sisterhood I'm able to grow, give and become a better person daily in much the same way I am able to do as I study my Bible and get to know the Lord.

Please see the PM I've sent you. It explains my application of Matthew 6:24.

[ladygreek]

Originally posted by the411

I pledged a sorority in 1997 and thoroughly enjoyed black greek life. However, before and during that time, I had no relationship with God and did not know His Word. A couple of years ago, that all changed (that's why I haven't been posting on GreekChat like I used to). He saved me, called me into serious ministry, and has given me a major purpose for the kingdom. More importantly, I have received His Holy Spirit, who has helped me fully dissect and understand the divine Word of God. Given what the Spirit has revealed and what I now believe to be true, I have chosen not to be an active member of my sorority in order that I may be an active member of the Body of Christ. I have much biblical basis for my decision, but the following sealed it for me:

No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon. (Matthew 6:24)

I would be lying to you if I said that I regret my decision to pledge. I had some wonderful times and met some outstanding people. There are people on GC that I care about, which is why I still pop in every blue moon. Yet, even after I crossed, there was still a void in my heart because I knew I was not in God's will. Now that I am walking in synchronized steps with the Lord, I see the greek system and life in general (work, money, relationships, etc.) very differently. This may not be the case for others, and that's fine-- I can't be concerned with what works or doesn't work for anyone else but me. My relationship with God and my Christian walk are irrevocable, nonnegotiable, and nondebatable. A true Christian does not and will not ostracize another for being active, just as I expect others to respect my decision to be inactive.

At the end of the day, you have to make the decision that's best for you, given what you know and believe God's purpose, requirements, instructions, and expectations are for YOUR life.

Hit me up with a PM if you care to talk more on the subject

I can see how painful this is for you. So, it seems that renouncing your membership in Delta is the right thing for you to do. If you want to know how to officially do that hit me up on PM.

[the411]

Originally posted by ladygreek
I can see how painful this is for you. So, it seems that renouncing your membership in Delta is the right thing for you to do. If you want to know how to officially do that hit me up on PM.

Painful? Not at all! I'm sorry if something I said gave you that impression. Difficult, yes, but far from painful. It was difficult because many of my sorors and greek friends weren't feeling me at all. Because of the way I used to think and act, only a few of them actually took me seriously. Tearing myself away wasn't easy at first because it meant having to end some friendships with people I loved and respected (not all, but many) who put me down because of my new walk. Of course, that just confirmed that they weren't true friends to begin with, right?. I still have a few active greek friends who love me and respect my decision, even though we don't always see eye-to-eye on the issue. For me, pleasing God isn't always easy--especially when my pride, flesh, and boredom get in the way--but it's never painful. I am just so much happier when I know I make Him smile.

Thank you for your offer, but I don't think I need to go through a formal process to demit from the org... Do you? I cut the cord in my "secret place" with God some time ago. Besides, I can never erase my membership completely, short of getting a serious case of amnesia . After all, I made history at my chapter and I still have fond memories, good friends, and secrets. Nonetheless, greekdom is my past. Jesus is my present and my future, so greek life fits in only as a part of my testimony and witnessing. Don't worry--the org never has to worry about me changing my mind and wanting back in! LOL

Also, I didn't mention my greek affiliation for a reason. I know many "old head" posters may have already known it, but in this thread, I was careful not to draw attention to the org for those who didn't. As I stated in my initial response to frat2b, my inactivity is not a personal attack on any specific org or the members therein, but rather the action I feel I--me, Alysia--needed to take based on spiritual revelation from God. I'm at peace with my decison and I hope you can be at peace with it, too.

Should you have a desire to do so, let's continue this discussion via PM.

Thanks again, Sister!