spin-off from "new black sorority"

[12dn94dst]

Originally posted by treblk:
With all due repect to everyone and their opinion. This post was my opinion and I made sure to say it was my opinion. I don't think it was "bullshit" in anyway shape or form. I posted my thoughts in reponse to Professor's post. I sure that we have all felt this way at one point or another, especially in undergrad!!
This forum is for Sorors, Sisterfriends and others to post THEIR opinion and/or thoughts, regardless if we agree or not.

Now Soror 12dn94dst, in answer to your post, I think it how we have been socialized to react towards bisexual and/or lesbian women. It is harder to break a habit then to start one.

Yes, this is a forum where we express opinions, hopefully as intelligently and clearly as possible without becoming hostile. Soror's OPINION of your OPINION is that it's a load of crap. And NO, not all of us have felt this way at one point or another. Now y'all make up because I can't have my sands on here acting a fool. :P

Your logic is interesting, Soror. For years some white people were socialized to react a certain way to blacks. I guess when we run accross those who still do think that way we should just let that go because it's hard for them to break that habit? (just a question)

I don't remember my parents telling me that homosexuality was wrong just as I don't remember them telling me that white people were evil and not to be trusted even though they were brought up in the 50s & 60s and the civil rights movement came to a head. Even if they had, I'm an adult now and it's irresponsible of me to blame my entire way of thinking on someone else be it the media, my parents, my church or my peers. Yes we are influenced by all those forces, but the ultimate decision of what to think lies in the individual. In the process of growing up, there should come a time (or 2 or 3) when you discover that what you were taught or what you previously though was wrong. If that time hasn't come, then you haven't grown as a person. The more we are open to and experience different things & views, the more we grow and the more we know, which, as you reminded us Soror, is half the battle (yes, I'm showing my age too).

[treblk]

Soror MaMaBuddha,
We are both in the same boat.

I think the reason why XYZ kimmeee and XYZ johnny can't be just Kimmeee and johnny, is the same reason why, once we become a member of our repective organization, we are no longer...treblk..but Delta Treblk and so on.

I am not saying it is right, but that is reality. I remember when my sands and I crossed, my prophyts told us,..Now yall know that everyone will be watching what you do and if you do it, then they will assume we all do it.

I don't know where everyone is from, but where I am from, that is how it was.

[12dn94dst]

Just because "that's how it was" or "that's what I was taught/raised" does not mean that it's right or that it cannot be CHANGED. When I think about our letters and what they mean and why our 22 Visionaries chose them, I find it hard to be comfortable with "that's how it was" if it's no longer right and just.

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[12dn94dst]

Originally posted by MaMaBuddha:
soror 12dn94dst, are you an aquarius???? i totally agree with everything you just said.

can i just boost what a great moderator you are?!?!?!!?

Nope, I'm a Libra...no wonder the 9th day is my favorite

thank you sorors now quit with all this "great moderator" stuff...you're making me blush


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[MaMaBuddha]

soror treblk....

your my sands...spring 1994...so is 12dn94dst.

this is so special!!!

by no means do i think you are close minded...i just think that years pass we need to have tolerance and acceptance.



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[treblk]

Great minds all think alike,
We are all sp 94
12dn94dst and I are Libra's. I am the 13th of October.


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[MaMaBuddha]

soror treblk...

are you in the southern region??

i remember hearing the same thing as i cross from my propytes.

but then again we must remember we make the organization the organization does not make us.

i was a lesbian when i went in to organization and i still will be to my death, mind you i don't go around hollaring a scream i am a lesbian, tis it is nobodies business.

but i tell you i disagree with people that put their business out on front street, if you know what i mean.

i certainly don't walk around with everyone knowing who i am involved with or who i've sleep with. it's called discretion, people need to use it.

soror 12dn94dst, are you an aquarius???? i totally agree with everything you just said.

can i just boost what a great moderator you are?!?!?!!?

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[treblk]

Hey Soror, no I was made in the Farwest, sp 94, and I live in the Eastern region.

And I do agree with everything you have to say. I am not close minded, but my point came from my undergrad days.

There is nothing wrong with your sexual orientation, but when you or others, put your business out there, it makes things harder.

And of course..congrats 12dn94dst on your new position

[prettygyrl]

Well when I was younger I was approached by a homosexual, I did not get mad and curse her out or nothing but I did feel uncomfortable inside, I can't really explain why cause I do not know I just did, I just told her that I was not interested and that I was hetero and she said ok and that was about it, she was really nice about it she was not vulger and I saw no reason to want to curse at her or anything like that........but on the flip side when an brother approaches me he will probably get snapped on quicker than a female because alot of men are so vulger with their approach.......point being if I am not interested in someone whether it is a man or a woman that approaches me I will kindly let them know, but if one is being disrespectful in their approach then I will get upset it doesn't matter what their sexual orientation is.............................
Now as far as not letting someone in an organization because they are homosexual.......Well I am not greek but I do not dig that kind of discrimination regardless of how I PERSONALLY feel about homosexuality, I am not GOD so how can I judge, I mean on a personal level I am not homosexual and I hope that my children do not grow up to be, that is not a diss to homosexuals thats is just how I feel, but if one of them did I would love them the same and I would not want people to mistreat them because of. If a person is gay or lesbian that does not mean they can become a Delta or AKA or Omega or Kappa, or whatever and serve that organization properly....I mean if a woman is a lesbian and she works hard in her sorority to accomplish all the goals they set for themselves then how can she make that sorority look bad? I mean being Black and still facing discrimination alot of times how dare we ever discriminate against our own? A homosexual does not make an organization look bad, but discriminatin against your own does make Black people look bad and it weakens us more as we are already soo weak with lack of unity can we really afford silly things like that..............Of course no one is perfect I am sure we all have prejudices of some kind mine is (as everyone knows) with white people joining Black organizations and dating Black people, maybe that is not the right way to think but I guess all we can do is pray about are imperfections and GROW, LIVE AND LEARN....................


Sorry so long

[prettygyrl]

See mamabuddha I always forget to put those spaces in my long posts