Saddam Captured!!!!!

[PhiPsiRuss]

Originally posted by starang21
he supposedly the mastermind behind 9/11

"Supposedly?"

[CanadianTeke]

Does anybody know where he will be tried? Will it be for Genocide at the International court in The Hauge? ( i am pretty sure charges were laid there against him months ago). I don't think there is anywhere else he can be tried, American Law doesn't apply, and Iraqui law at the time of the crimes didn't really exist, (the will of the soverign was the basic rule of law from my understanding). I think the only way for there to be a fair trial would be at The Hauge.

[starang21]

Originally posted by russellwarshay
"Supposedly?"

we'll if he's absolutely the real criminal, why on earth are we wasting our time celebrating finding a broken man and not looking for him? but i digress, i guess the dems are the only ones using any kind of common sense regarding this.

[PhiPsiRuss]

Originally posted by starang21
we'll if he's absolutely the real criminal, why on earth are we wasting our time celebrating finding a broken man and not looking for him? but i digress, i guess the dems are the only ones using any kind of common sense regarding this.

Why? Geopolitics. And don't worry, but there was no sign of common sense in your post, so I guess that every one is even.

[PhiPsiRuss]

Originally posted by CanadianTeke
Does anybody know where he will be tried? Will it be for Genocide at the International court in The Hauge? ( i am pretty sure charges were laid there against him months ago). I don't think there is anywhere else he can be tried, American Law doesn't apply, and Iraqi law at the time of the crimes didn't really exist, (the will of the soverign was the basic rule of law from my understanding). I think the only way for there to be a fair trial would be at The Hauge.

I think that Iraq will be allowed to try him. The reason is simple; Iraq needs to heal, and being incontrol of the judicial process that determines Saddam's fate will have a cathartic effect.

[CanadianTeke]

Originally posted by russellwarshay
I think that Iraq will be allowed to try him. The reason is simple; Iraq needs to heal, and being incontrol of the judicial process that determines Saddam's fate will have a cathartic effect.

Perhaps, But in order to be tried, you have to commit a crime, and while obviously the atrocities that he committed are exactly that, if the Iraqui law stated at the time that these acts were committed, that the soverign could do as he pleased, a law wasn't necessarily broken. I don't know much if anything about Iraqui Law, hell i don't even know if there is a real legal system. If he is tried in Iraq there could and will be claims from the international community of American manipulation.

[RACooper]

Originally posted by CanadianTeke
Does anybody know where he will be tried? Will it be for Genocide at the International court in The Hauge? ( i am pretty sure charges were laid there against him months ago). I don't think there is anywhere else he can be tried, American Law doesn't apply, and Iraqui law at the time of the crimes didn't really exist, (the will of the soverign was the basic rule of law from my understanding). I think the only way for there to be a fair trial would be at The Hauge.

He was captured by the US forces in Iraq, he will have to be tried in Iraq..... remember Bush refused to recognize the juristiction of the Hague when it comes to war crimes or crimes against humanity.

[PhiPsiRuss]

Originally posted by CanadianTeke
Perhaps, But in order to be tried, you have to commit a crime, and while obviously the atrocities that he committed are exactly that, if the Iraqui law stated at the time that these acts were committed, that the soverign could do as he pleased, a law wasn't necessarily broken. I don't know much if anything about Iraqui Law, hell i don't even know if there is a real legal system. If he is tried in Iraq there could and will be claims from the international community of American manipulation.

I've got a hunch that there was Iraqi law prohibiting what Saddam did, but it was selectively enforced. If an opponent of Saddam conspired to commit genocide, I'm sure that he would have been swiftly, and severely punished.

[CanadianTeke]

Originally posted by russellwarshay
I've got a hunch that there was Iraqi law prohibiting what Saddam did, but it was selectively enforced. If an opponent of Saddam conspired to commit genocide, I'm sure that he would have been swiftly, and severely punished.

Like i said earlier though, the minimal amout that i have read about the Iraqui legal system basically pointed to the law being "the will of the soverign" ie, whatever Saddam said was law, whatever he wanted was law, and whatever action he took was legal. If this is the case, then it is difficult to try him under Iraqui law, when in essence he was Iraqui law.

[enlightenment06]

can someone clear this up for me, but I thought the official position of the U.S. is against the international criminal court. would it not be then hypocritical to put saddam on trial in that very institution? I think saddam should stand trial, just seems kinda ironic.

Dealth penalty is a big no-no. How does killing someone bring justice? I thought the reason murder is wrong is because it's the taking of life- but that's for another thread.

now, where are those weapons of mass destruction? since saddam is captured, I would think that we should have them within the next day or so, since they were such an "imminent threat"

THIS STILL DOES NOT CHANGE THE FACT THAT THE WAR WAS UNJUST AND LEAD UNDER FALSE PRETENSES.

[enlightenment06]

and another thing...

so we're supposed to be all happy that saddam was captured, but I feel like it doesn't have the significance putting are ascribing to it. What I mean by this is that Osama bin Laden is still out there somewhere plotting to kill all of us. I'm so sick of this whole situation and how some people refuse to see what's right in front of their faces. It's kind of funny how the powers that be are just feeding grass to the sheep who are eating every shard of grass in the meadow of lies and deceit. Would people just learn to READ, examine the world they live in from a different perspective and think for themselves? WAKE UP!!!!

[starang21]

Originally posted by enlightenment06
and another thing...

so we're supposed to be all happy that saddam was captured, but I feel like it doesn't have the significance putting are ascribing to it. What I mean by this is that Osama bin Laden is still out there somewhere plotting to kill all of us. I'm so sick of this whole situation and how some people refuse to see what's right in front of their faces. It's kind of funny how the powers that be are just feeding grass to the sheep who are eating every shard of grass in the meadow of lies and deceit. Would people just learn to READ, examine the world they live in from a different perspective and think for themselves? WAKE UP!!!!

man, you'd think that people could see that...but i guess they like those rose tinted glasses.

[MuAZD]

Originally posted by KillarneyRose
Does anyone know if the part of Hagrid has been cast yet for the next Harry Potter movie?

Lol! Guess I was the only one who thought that was hilarious. I can't wait to watch the South Park that makes fun of how Sadaam looks. Maybe Satan will leave him cause he looks all scruffy.

[ThetaPrincess24]

Originally posted by docetboy
FOUR MORE YEARS!

I LOVE MY PRESIDENT!

I'm with you!!!!!!!!!! I'll certainly be drinking to that later

[ThetaPrincess24]

Originally posted by AggieSigmaNu361
I have the utmost faith that the soldiers of the Army's 4th Infantry Division treated him in the manner that all POW's are supposed to be treated.

Kitso
KS 361

I would say they are. They did afterall inspect him for health conditions (mainly for lice i think), they did let him shower, and they did let him shave off that beard.