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11-05-2003, 01:32 PM
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Is Twice as Nice?
I am just wondering how actives and alumnae feel about a PNM that has already been through Recruitment once already?
If they get in the second time, do you hold the fact they went through Recruitment twice against them?
Should someone that's already been through once and didn't get in worry about going through again?
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11-05-2003, 01:41 PM
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I think the only time anyone (and I'm just speaking for myself and my own chapter) would have a problem is if a PNM went through rush once and pledged their house and then dropped it rather rudely...then the members of that chapter might not be pleased to see her back again the next year. But to be quite honest, I can't really remember the vast majority of the girls I saw go through rush, except the ones who were really really horribly extremely mean or nasty, but those are few and far between. I really don't see why anyone would hold it against a PNM if she rushed twice.
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11-05-2003, 02:09 PM
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If someone got into my chapter after rushing twice, I can't imagine that anyone would hold it (rushing twice) against her. After all, if she ended up getting in it would be because we wanted her to get in (if that makes sense).
For the most part, though, if our chapter cut someone once they'd probably cut them again. It wasn't a hard and fast rule, but that's usually how it went.
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11-05-2003, 02:16 PM
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My chapter never looked down on that. Our recruitment is so big that we usually do not remember whether or not a girl went through rush the year before. We've had a few girls join our chapter after being cut during their first recruitment. Many times, we liked these girls but couldn't take them because of grades. After raising their GPA, they go through again and we're able to take them.
Like Achtung said, the only time we'd probably look down on it is if a girl pledged us, dropped, and then went through recruitment again. Luckily, that never happened while I was a collegiate member.
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11-05-2003, 02:42 PM
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I don't think anyone at my school who was going through recruitment a second time after dropping out or being cut across the board would have it held against them. People can change a lot in a year. People who were cut for grades can bring them up. Brand-new freshmen who are stressed from adjusting to college life on top of rush can turn into experienced, confident sophomores. A relatively immature freshman can turn into a very mature sophomore or junior.
On the other hand, if someone pledged and then depledged, she would probably be scrutinized a little more heavily. The idea being, "she depledged last year, what's to say she won't do it again?" An exception would be a situation where she had depledged because of extenuating circumstances such as a family emergency.
I've always felt that you should look at the PNM the way she is today, and not just say "oh, we cut her last year, no one remembers why, it might have just been grades, but cut once, cut always."
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11-05-2003, 07:15 PM
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Are you talking about someone doing formal twice? or someone who's done formal and is now doing informal?
At my alma mater, we had COB in the fall and formal in the spring. Many times, we had WAY more girls COBing than we had spots for (read: one year we had 21 girls wanting 5 spots!) and we were excited when girls decided to go through formal rush because they wanted to be in our chapter (only upperclassmen could do COB so if they didn't do formal rush, they risked having to COB as a junior). There were also girls who went through formal twice, having dropped the 1st time before prefs (or just after...before getting a bid) and we took a few like that. Sometimes, however, let's just say some girls seemed a little 'desperate' and would do formal and drop out or get dropped, then try to COB, and then try formal again.  Let's just say that wasn't considered a good thing.
It all depends on the girl. If she's genuinely interested, give her a shot. Also remember that people change over time and this girl may not be the same girl she was the year before. Always give girls the benefit of the doubt first. Some girls will tell you why they are rushing again, but don't push them to disclose. There will always be girls who aren't liked by any chapter who continue to rush and rush and rush...but there are those who rush twice who make great assets to chapters!
That's my two cents (or three or four  )
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11-05-2003, 07:20 PM
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It all depends on why she didn't receive a bid the first time she went through recruitment. A lot of times girls get cut because there simply aren't enough spots. Grades is also another consideration - if they don't have the grades one semester, we tell them to wait and we'll pick them up the following semester, provided their grades improved. That's how it was in my sorority. We had several sisters who had been through recruitment more than once.
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11-06-2003, 12:31 AM
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We actually have a sister who we got through informal recruitment, pledged, and then she depleged. She went through formal recruitment, pledged us again, and is now initiated and a great sister.
I agree with ZTAngel- formal recruitment at UCF is hectic enough that the sisters would probably never remember if you went through before or not.
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11-06-2003, 11:12 AM
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In my chapter, there was a great girl who rushed one year, and made it very clear she wanted Alpha Gam. She was a DZ legacy though, and in our chapter, we simply did not cut legacies...and we liked her so she came to our pref, but single-intentional-preferenced AGD. She wasn't high enough on their bid list, though, and so she went bidless. The next year, she went through recruitment again, but this time, she was not invited to AGD's pref. Again, she was a legacy, so we invited her to our pref, knowing she didn't want to be a DZ, and that if she accepted our invitation, she would be one of our sisters.
In the end, she did get a bid, and became initiated. It was always very clear that she was not entirely enthused, and I think some of my chapter sisters resented her for it, because we knew there were women who desperately wanted to be DZs that didn't get a bid because she took their place on our bid list.
Other than that isolated situation, we had other women get bids their second time through formal, and no one ever had problems with those women.
edited for grammar stuff
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11-07-2003, 06:55 PM
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Ok Well since technically Im gonna have to go through rush 3 times which is really wierd I guess but hey 3rd time is the charm right lol..... But like everyone knows already I had gone through informal and pledged ZTA and unfortunatly I was unable to initiate due to some school problems and being that I was unable to make it to initiation b/c of work. I was very upset that I had to depledge but then decided to go through formal rush this past fall however I decided to drop out of rush since I was dropped from the 3 houses that I was most interested in so now that Ive got my grades up and all Im going to try again in the fall again!
so I hope that Im not judged upon all of this. but if so then I dont think that I would want to be a part of a glo that would treat someone that way.
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11-08-2003, 10:15 AM
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Geez... why would you?!
People as you know, get cut for the stupidest reasons!
I'd actually see it as a good quality. They are taking the chance at being rejected a second time (something that never feels good) for something that they think is important to them.
What's not to like about that? Unless you're worried about how other chapters will view you for taking a "tainted" Prospect (which I think is pretty shallow).
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11-08-2003, 05:44 PM
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I think it takes a great deal of courage to go through the recruitment process a second time, especially if things did not work out well the first time around. Unless there are some questionable circumstances (and I'm sure everyone knows what I'm talking about), then I usually have a good deal of respect for a girl going through again.
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11-09-2003, 12:43 PM
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I know of a couple girls in my chaper who went through and mismatched and then went through again. Other than that, I've seen plenty of girls at Georgia go through Freshman year, drop out or get released from their fave houses, then go through Sophomore year thinking they know exactly where they want to go (usually a top chapter that doesn't take many sophomores). If they've gone through and have cut us, generally we release them unless we really know the girl well (out of about 1300 girls rushing). Or if we've released a girl before, generally we're consistent with the past decision and release her again since we're usually taking similar types of girls from year to year. I have seen a couple interesting debates about this policy though. It totally depends on the chapter and the school.
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11-12-2003, 09:03 PM
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I went through rush twice, thankfully not at the same school. My first time around I just didn't click w/ any of the girls & I didn't accept any invitations back to pref. When I moved schools the next year I ended up falling in love w/ Sigma Kappa & stayed.
 If anything, my experience going through rush the first time helped me to realize exactly what I was looking for when I attended rush again.
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11-16-2003, 04:57 PM
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