GHB and chicks......bad combination

UF_PikePC98 · #1 02-28-2003, 02:28 PM

I'm sure there are some of you out there that do this stuff.

I just wanted to share something that I've been going through since saturday night.

A friend of mine that plays volleyball for UF, as well as tennis, met up with a bunch of us late staurday night/sunday morning. She was sober. I've known this chick since she was a freshman in 99 and we've had some crazy nights together, late and crazy. We were at a friends house and there were about 40 people partying late night, I was in town as were a few others from our crew. Everything was fine up till 6:00am. My friend got the bright idea to get some GHB from her apartment. She was sober and didn't feel like blowing lines like everyone else was. She asked me and 3 other of our friends if we wanted some but said that it was real strong. Naturally I said yes as did our friends. I was the guinea pig since I have the most experience in that field and tasted it to make sure it was ok, believe me.....it was the fire a$$ $hit........everyone tasted it and agreed it was strong....I havent had G like that since 98.......The thought did cross my mind that it might be a phucked up batch and thats why it seemed to be the fire. Well, I've landed in hospital in 99 for that $hit and since then I've learned to use my head when doing it. I took a 1/2 of cap. Within 5 minutes I was feeling pretty damn good. The other, however, got G happy and kept taking more caps. I tried to be a trooper and made an effort to keep up, so I took another cap. Within an hour I passed out....or so they say....that always happenes to me.......but unlike me, they kept going.

I woke up a few hours later lying in a friends bed. I saw my friend that was the chick and one of my boys both butt a$$ naked on the floor by the bed. That led me to believe that they got a little freaky. Well.....As soon as I woke up I heard one of them choking. My friend Lance was vomitting and then inhaling his shit.....For those of you that don't know....thats how people die......I jumped up and grabbed him and held his head up while he threw up, making sure he didn't die. ( It sounds kinda like a crackhead thing, but when you have a lot of exp in situations like this, you know what to do.) After he was done throwing up he started bleeding out of the nose and mouth. However, it wasn't from the G. He had done about 3 grams of coke the night before along with numerous pain killers like Perkecet and Vikaderm crushed up in the coke. He's also on a steroid call Fenoplex which makes you have high blood pressure....thats how I knew his nose problem wasn't from the G.......Finally his nose stopped bleeding and all was well. The chick, my other friend, was ok at that time. I proped her up in case she had to vomit, cleaned my boy up with a washcloth and then left to go back to my friends house to shower. After showering I said goodbye to friends and then dipped back out to tampa.

On my way home got a call from my boy. To make a long story short, he said that my other firned still had not woken up, and that she was moaning but unconcious. Another teammate of hers who was also there doing the same $hit got scared and called the ambulance, which saved her life. Turns out she ended up being in a G hole for about 5 days....she came out yesterday afternoon.....This whole time I've been saying prayers for her. She called me an hour ago and we talked about a lot of things. She still cannot walk. She'll be kept in the hospital for another 4 days until she fully recovers. Somehow she didn't get brain damage but the doctors say she should have. She still has blood in her lungs and her heart is still very weak. Her heart beat per minute is very low. It's hard for her to breath. I could tell you everything you want to know about how GHB affects yours body and the way it enters the system, along with the harmful things it does while in your body. It's a nasty drug......It affects girls differently than it does guys. So, ladies, please take my advice and don't do it. I, along with about 9 other friends, have had close calls. She only had 2 water bottle caps of the stuff. Every batch is different. Theres been times where I took 8 caps in a night and was barely trashed, and then there was a time where my friends and I all took 3/4 of a cap and we all wrecked our vehicles that night, 2 of which were totaled. It almost cost a few their football careers.

If you have any questions about this drug and it's effects, please feel free to ask. If any of you have any stories you'd like to share....please feel free. If people know the nasty side of it, they might think twice before taking it.....

UF

UF_PikePC98 · #2 02-28-2003, 02:36 PM

Also if anyone can, please post a web site for others to read up on it. I'm about to leave for New Orleans.

Hope you guys have a great weekend.

damasa · #3 02-28-2003, 02:50 PM

With all these athletes being involved there has to be some kind of website or article floating around. I mean, football players taking GHB and getting into car accidents and Volleyball and Tennis players. Do you have any links where we can read up on these stories?

There is always a story when college athletes are caught using drugs or in a situation relating to drug use. I would think even more so from a football player getting into a car accident after a night of using GHB.

If you could point out some links about these stories, that'd be great.

UF_PikePC98 · #4 02-28-2003, 03:00 PM

Actually there might be something in the Alligator, which is the UF student newspaper. I havent checked.

As for the guys who play sports.....this happened last summer, last spring and the fall of 2001.......one was suspended from the team for about 1/2 the season......the others got off light. They weren't drinking alchohol and the police didn't think about G. All they gave them was wreckless endangerment tickets. There was something about the student body pres last year being wasted on G and how he failed sobriety tests but they didn't find any alchohol in his system.

Feel free to research you like...please post your findings...

I gotta go now....

MoxieGrrl · #5 02-28-2003, 03:13 PM

I'm so sorry that this all happened, UF_Pike. You and your friends are in my thoughts.

But have a good (SAFE!) weekend.

UDZETA · #6 02-28-2003, 03:14 PM

My question is if you know this does terrible things to your body and can kill you. Why do you put your life at risk and the lives of others at risk? I'm not judging you so please do not think that I am but I am concern that your one friend doing the coke with other drugs needs some serious help. I do think a drug program or even going to therapist could help this person. Even dealing with a situation like this can cause some serious stress and a therapist may be able to help you through this. Most schools have some wonderful people that can really help in these types of situations. But thats just my two cents!

AXJules · #7 02-28-2003, 03:42 PM

Here's what I don't understand-
I'm a 'clubber', so to speak. I work for a dance/promotion company that provides entertainment to diffferent clubs in Chicago. All of my friends work in the industry, therefore a lot of my friends do Xstacy, liquid g, etc. I have tried a few things once and swore to never do them again, but that's another story.
Anyway, everyone knows that liquid g is colorless, odorless, and tasteless. It also leaves your system incredibly quickly. That's why it's such a prevalent date rape drug. I have friends that do it all the time and the reason they do is b/c it feels like nothing going down. Like water.
I would never do it, but last year someone put it in my beer at a party. 2 beers and I was throwing up everywhere and blacking out. I still don't know how i got home, what I did that night, or where my shoes went.

I'm in no way saying you're lying, but either 1) the taste thing was added for dramatic effect or 2) you guys weren't doing g.

AXJules · #8 02-28-2003, 03:49 PM

Something else I forgot to mention-
It's really true that everyone reacts differently to G (like most club drugs.)
Give someone a small amount for their body, they'll get hyper and then pass out. Give them too much, they'll vomit a lot. Give them way too much, and their body overheats and they die.
This is a weird slope of occurences, my point is that I had so much in my drink that I totally bypassed the hyper stage and wound up in the hospital.
There's no way to know what kind of effect it will have on you until it's too late. For anyone reading this and being like, different effects for guys and girls, I should try just a droplet of it..... it might not change the intensity of what it does to your body, just how long. It depends. Either way, I can't imagine how you could put stuff in your body that has a 50 50 chance of killing you and just be like, everyone's gotta go sometime.
Please if you're reading UF_Pike's post, know that he's extremely lucky for doing it so much and still being alive. Your results will probably be much different.

UF_PikePC98 · #9 02-28-2003, 03:52 PM

GHB can be made with one of two bases......

1-sodium based ghb....tastes disgusting, chicks say it taste like male sperm, if not mixed correctly it can be fatal.

2-potassium based ghb- tasteless, clear, oderless, extremly potent. It usually causes individuals to vomit or pass out due to the high postassium content. It drops an indivduals blood sugar level down to almost non exsistent...thats why you black out. It's kinda like what happenes to a diabetic when their blood sugar level drops. It can be fatal. This is why people tell you to drink sugar water or coca-cola when you start to feel like youre passing out....you need sugar in your body.

Peaches-n-Cream · #10 02-28-2003, 04:02 PM

I've never used drugs. It just seems too dangerous. I don't feel like I have missed out on anything. It doesn't seem to be worth the risk of death or a visit to the emergency room.

amycat412 · #11 02-28-2003, 04:13 PM

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Originally posted by UF_PikePC98
GHB can be made with one of two bases......

1-sodium based ghb....tastes disgusting, chicks say it taste like male sperm, if not mixed correctly it can be fatal.

Have heard this referred to as Gasoline, for the way it tastes. And NLS (nasty little slut) for how it makes you feel.

People, if you feel the need to try G--EDITED TO ADD: AND I AM NOT CONDONING THIS AT ALL --

DO NOT HAVE ANY ALCOHOL with it. Alcohol in your system DRAMATICALLY changes the way you will react to this drug and increases the danger. A small amount of G (1/2 an eyedropper) and no alcohol and you can be in happy place. With alcohol-- you want to sleep forever/vomit/feel like you cannot move limbs.

Of course, this is just what I've been told and observed, but I've seen enough of it around and enough reactions to it by friends to have made these observations...

In general, we ALL know its not a good idea to go mixing a bunch of different alcohols, let ALONE a bunch of different drugs.

SSS1365 · #12 02-28-2003, 06:11 PM

No way I would EVER try that stuff. Sorry to offend anyone out there, but I think anyone who does it knowingly is a complete idiot. I've heard of too many people dying from it or going into comas. Why would you want to risk your life for some cheap little thrill? And YES I do suspect it has been used on me as a date rape drug (one night after only 3 beers I was SOOOOO sick, what else could it be???) And no, throwing up on yourself and choking on it is NOT the only way you can die from it. Here's an interesting bit of information I found on the subject:

"In addition to immobility and amnesia, side effects of GHB range from drowsiness and dizziness to nausea, seizures, respiratory problems, and death. Other side effects include high blood pressure, mood swings, liver tumors, violent behavior, impaired breathing, and loss of reflexes, according to Prevention Works! Club Drugs: GHB, an Anabolic Steroid. GHB is frequently used with alcohol, which can amplify these side effects.

Other dangers exist with GHB ingestion. Users have no way of knowing which chemicals are used to create GHB since it is illegally developed in clandestine labs. Typically, however, GHB is produced using common household cleaning products and other strong chemicals. Two “chemical cousins” to GHB — 1,4-butanediol (or BD) and GBL — are just as dangerous to users. When ingested, these drugs convert in the user’s body to GHB and can cause the same side effects found in GHB.

GHB was initially used by bodybuilders and athletes to build up their muscles, but when they began overdosing, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) took notice. In 1990, the FDA deemed GHB unsafe and by 2000 the drug had been placed in Schedule I of the Controlled Substances Act. In other words, GHB is now considered as dangerous as other, better-known drugs such as cocaine and the penalties for using or distributing GHB are just as serious."

Bamboozled · #13 02-28-2003, 06:22 PM

Wow, you guys know a lot about drugs! LOL. My sympathies go out to those who have ingested it involuntarily, but to voluntarily take it? WTF goes through your mind that makes you go, "Yeah, I think I'll swallow (or however you get it into your system) some toxic chemicals."? Seriously, what is the desired side effect that makes it so appealing?

AXJules · #14 02-28-2003, 10:33 PM

As far as exstacy goes, my friends who did it were mostly dancers who wanted to be able to work all night. It makes you hyper (and feeling really sexual), so they were able to dance from 9 to 5 am. Without it they'd get pulled by a manager as soon as they looked slow or without energy. I tried it once under the same circumstances and then realized how stupid I was for thinking if all my friends took the same pill, we'd have the same effects. Definitely not true- realized the error of my ways and never did any illegal drugs (voluntarily) again. I have another friend that djs and he swears that he can't correctly link tracks of music together unless he's rolling (on ecstacy).I think he's full of it and just looking for an excuse but he's not the only person I've heard make that claim.
Liquid g I don't understand.....it makes you either super hyper or really mellow and in this 'dreamlike' state.....I can get that from alcohol so why risk it? It's like playing russian roulette.

librasoul22 · #15 03-01-2003, 01:06 PM

See, the problems come in when people start saying they "NEED" drugs to do certain things...wtf??

I have never tried X, or G, or ABC, or blow, or acid. I have been around plently of people that do that stuff, and even at a club I frequent, the owner is forever telling me to do lines with him. What for? I mean, I enjoy going to the club and drinking to loosen up (occasionally getting sloppy drunk, lol), and that is quite enough for me.

I have seen the effects that drugs like X and coke have on people and I just really have no desire to ingest anything that will make me act like that. Ever.