Pledging Underground

kingtut · #1 08-10-2000, 01:41 PM

Greeting to all my A Phi A bruhs and AKA sisters. I was wondering what was you your view on those who pledge or pledged underground. I know how some of you feel about those who apply for membership over the net and those who just skate. But what about those who pledged/pledge underground and have no "paper".I mean do you still consider them to be bruhs. Let me know what you think.

"06"
kingtut

Professor · #2 08-10-2000, 02:43 PM

If one did not cross how can anyone consider another a brother or sister. If someone did not make it then they just did not make it. I don't know what else to say?

"06"

Ice Cold Kreator · #3 08-10-2000, 04:42 PM

Brother Tut,

R you talking about members who are already in the frat who went underground (which in many cases is just...)

Maybe you should e-mail me as I think this is a little sensitive!

7BA94 · #4 08-10-2000, 06:58 PM

Of course, they are brothers. They came in correctly.

pinkice9 · #5 08-11-2000, 03:24 PM

First of all I would like to greek the finest and most intelligent men in greekdom as such. SKEEEEEEE-PHIIIIIII and 08 my frat bruhs.

I don't think you should be called a brother or soror until you participate in the rituals and the other offical things that really matter in the organization.

I think underground mean underhanded. Nine times out of ten all of the people participating on that line will not all go over. As a result, someone may trip and think that they did and now you have a situation where others see this person as a part but they will not be legit.

I don't know about that underground stuff. Out and the open means I will cross. And that has to be the goal. To cross.

Love yall

Pinkice

The Original Ape · #6 08-11-2000, 07:30 PM

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Originally posted by kingtut:
Greeting to all my A Phi A bruhs and AKA sisters. I was wondering what was you your view on those who pledge or pledged underground. I know how some of you feel about those who apply for membership over the net and those who just skate. But what about those who pledged/pledge underground and have no "paper".I mean do you still consider them to be bruhs. Let me know what you think.

"06"
kingtut

Yeah Bruh; They are Bruhs. I just hope the ones that took them over make sure these neos get everything from Nationals they paid for. Some of yall know how bruhs is!

Ice Cold Kreator · #7 08-11-2000, 08:21 PM

7BA94 -- whats correctly constitute?
pinkice9--- I'm feelin' you!!!!

As long as bruhs went through a process...they are brothers...but they must be recognized by nationals!!!!

Plus this 90s underground process doesn't do what the old process used to do...

it doesn't always work "for the better making of men!"

06...

Ice Cold Kreator

tickledpink · #8 08-11-2000, 09:40 PM

Skee-Phi my brothers!

Kingtut, it sounds as if your talking about "ghosts".... That's a tough one. I'd have to say no. If for some reason they were rejected by nationals, then I feel they should find out what the problem was, fix it, then try again next year. Regardless of how we may feel about MIP, acknowledging a ghost is in a sense condoning hazing, which is illegal. And if the ghost starts feeling as if they are a soror/frat and approach the wrong person, they could jeopardize that chapter as well as subject themselves to never obtaining membership and legal ramifications.

---Skeee-weeee soror pink ice!----

[This message has been edited by tickledpink (edited August 11, 2000).]

2th-Pick · #9 08-12-2000, 01:38 AM

LOL!!! this topic is a matter of opinion and situation!!!

I wuz a "ghost" for 4 yearz... but i've been a brother for 4-1/2 yearz!!! how can i say that??? BECAUSE OF MY SITUATION!!! whut do you call it when you're not "rejected" by nationals, or the chapter... you pledge, you go through the rituals, you submit your money to nationals, they keep it for 10 months and send it back with no reasoning, you attend conventions, are recognized & respected around the country, yet, not in the system as being a member??? I call him a good bruh!!! dont be quick to hate on somebody that aint in the system, 'cause you dont know their situation...
peace

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THE CREATOR OF THE "NO SKATING" ICON SEEN AROUND THE NET!!!

"How do you know where I'm at, if you haven't been where I've been??? Understand where i'm coming from???" - Cypress Hill

7BA94 · #10 08-12-2000, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ice Cold Kreator:
7BA94 -- whats correctly constitute?
pinkice9--- I'm feelin' you!!!!

As long as bruhs went through a process...they are brothers...but they must be recognized by nationals!!!!

Plus this 90s underground process doesn't do what the old process used to do...

it doesn't always work "for the better making of men!"

06...

Ice Cold Kreator

Correctly should just be understood but, those who were pledged, initiated and have seen the light. So what nationals doesn't recognize them, they know what they need to know they are bruhs.

The Original Ape · #11 08-12-2000, 09:36 PM

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Originally posted by 2th-Pick:
LOL!!! this topic is a matter of opinion and situation!!!

I wuz a "ghost" for 4 yearz... but i've been a brother for 4-1/2 yearz!!! how can i say that??? BECAUSE OF MY SITUATION!!! whut do you call it when you're not "rejected" by nationals, or the chapter... you pledge, you go through the rituals, you submit your money to nationals, they keep it for 10 months and send it back with no reasoning, you attend conventions, are recognized & respected around the country, yet, not in the system as being a member??? I call him a good bruh!!! dont be quick to hate on somebody that aint in the system, 'cause you dont know their situation...
peace

Wassup Bruh!

I feel for you man! Are the bruhs that made you still around? Tell them to go with you to the next Regional, and have them talk to the Vice-president about your situation. Hopefully, he'll take care of it for you. We had a couple of situations at my chapter. Me and a couple of other bruhs made a road trip and took care of it! You pledged; don't settle for less! Waiting on your ____ can be a "session" in itself! Welcome bruh!

2th-Pick · #12 08-12-2000, 11:14 PM

^^^^ I went through a grad chapter in April, SOON TO BE THE BEST GRAD CHAPTER IN THE WORLD!!! Our grad chapter ws founded by 13 gentleman, all MSU gradz 12 of which pledged BA, and all pledged me... and tha dopest part is how deep tha blood runs... we couldnt settle for anything less than BETA ALPHA LAMBDA!!! so, to answer your question... yeah, our old skool iz still around, and they're makin movez... For tha past 4-1/2 yearz, we've been tryna let Nationalz take care uv binis... only to be lied to and disappointed time and tyme again... so whutz next??? we take matters into our own handz... can u imagin??? they shoulda kept me out... just 'cause i got paperwork now... dont mean that i still dont have a "renegade" mentality. thatz imbedded in me forever, and i'll use it az my primary source of ammunition!!! IMMA SHAKE THIS CIRCLE UP!!!!
peace

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2 BA SP 96
THE CREATOR OF THE "NO SKATING" ICON SEEN AROUND THE NET!!!

"How do you know where I'm at, if you haven't been where I've been??? Understand where i'm coming from???" - Cypress Hill
"Sah Dah Tay... Say Dah Tay..." - Pootie Tang

The Original Ape · #13 08-13-2000, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 2th-Pick:
^^^^ I went through a grad chapter in April, SOON TO BE THE BEST GRAD CHAPTER IN THE WORLD!!! Our grad chapter ws founded by 13 gentleman, all MSU gradz 12 of which pledged BA, and all pledged me... and tha dopest part is how deep tha blood runs... we couldnt settle for anything less than BETA ALPHA LAMBDA!!! so, to answer your question... yeah, our old skool iz still around, and they're makin movez... For tha past 4-1/2 yearz, we've been tryna let Nationalz take care uv binis... only to be lied to and disappointed time and tyme again... so whutz next??? we take matters into our own handz... can u imagin??? they shoulda kept me out... just 'cause i got paperwork now... dont mean that i still dont have a "renegade" mentality. thatz imbedded in me forever, and i'll use it az my primary source of ammunition!!! IMMA SHAKE THIS CIRCLE UP!!!!
peace

The Original Ape · #14 08-13-2000, 11:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 2th-Pick:
^^^^ I went through a grad chapter in April, SOON TO BE THE BEST GRAD CHAPTER IN THE WORLD!!! Our grad chapter ws founded by 13 gentleman, all MSU gradz 12 of which pledged BA, and all pledged me... and tha dopest part is how deep tha blood runs... we couldnt settle for anything less than BETA ALPHA LAMBDA!!! so, to answer your question... yeah, our old skool iz still around, and they're makin movez... For tha past 4-1/2 yearz, we've been tryna let Nationalz take care uv binis... only to be lied to and disappointed time and tyme again... so whutz next??? we take matters into our own handz... can u imagin??? they shoulda kept me out... just 'cause i got paperwork now... dont mean that i still dont have a "renegade" mentality. thatz imbedded in me forever, and i'll use it az my primary source of ammunition!!! IMMA SHAKE THIS CIRCLE UP!!!!
peace

Hey Bruh! Shake it up! There is a bruh at your chapter that knows SOMEBODY in nationals that can help you. If not; take a road trip to The Office and let'em know how you feel!

Peace.

2th-Pick · #15 08-14-2000, 02:48 AM

lol.... the office iz down tha street... I'm in Baltimore!!! thatz tha irony of tha whole thing... they knew uv our situation for over 6 years, and have neglected to straighten it out... TOO MUCH POLITICS!!! Now they know that we are about to straightin it out, and NOW they wanna jump on tha bandwagon... TOO MUCH POLITICS!!!
peace

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2 BA SP 96
THE CREATOR OF THE "NO SKATING" ICON SEEN AROUND THE NET!!!

"How do you know where I'm at, if you haven't been where I've been??? Understand where i'm coming from???" - Cypress Hill
"Sah Dah Tay... Say Dah Tay..." - Pootie Tang