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09-05-2002, 11:01 AM
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Yeah, the girls can't be punished under the "revealing secrets" concept or anything. They owned those shirts and can give them to whomever they please (unlike badges, which are usually considered the property of the fraternity and are "on loan" for the duration of your membership). I am pretty sure the only way that you can legally take back all of their paraphanelia is if you reimburse them the cost and buy it from them. At my chapter, girls who quit always give their badge to a still active member or send it back... we always ask for the other stuff back when people quit but if they don't give it there is nothing we can do.
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09-06-2002, 01:32 AM
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Yeah, the girls can't be punished under the "revealing secrets" concept or anything. They owned those shirts and can give them to whomever they please (unlike badges, which are usually considered the property of the fraternity and are "on loan" for the duration of your membership). I am pretty sure the only way that you can legally take back all of their paraphanelia is if you reimburse them the cost and buy it from them. At my chapter, girls who quit always give their badge to a still active member or send it back... we always ask for the other stuff back when people quit but if they don't give it there is nothing we can do.
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I don't think you're understand what AlphaChi's point is...
It's a matter of disrespect from a fraternity who sounds like it just plane ol sucks.
You're right, nothing can be done but I'll be damned if anyone disrespected the letters of Phi Mu.
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09-06-2002, 01:55 AM
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09-06-2002, 04:34 AM
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I can't even believe this!
HOW DISRESPECTFUL!!!
I take so much pride in my letters, that I won't even let anyone touch them, let alone wear them!!!
I just don't understand why someone would first of all want to wear someone else's letters.... And why these ex-members would let them!
Yes, they are just letters.... But they're my letters, and all of my sisters letters. We had to work just as hard as anyone to get these letters, and no matter what feelings people have toward them, no one has the right to disrespect them.
These people are not only disrespecting the letters, but disrespecting the sisters and most of all the Founders of our sorority.
Uh, I'm so discusted right now!
AlphaChiS2K:
Please keep us posted on what happened.
Fraternally,
Beth
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09-06-2002, 10:32 AM
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How completely disrespectful and STUPID! I mean what the hell, they were just walking around with a sorority's letters? And like someone else said, why Phi Sigma Sigma's? If I were in that Phi Sig chapter at that school I would have confronted them and forced them to take the shirt off! (even in the middle of public, I don't mind causing a scene). And anyway, who in the hell are the Sammies? They sound like shady skeezy guys from the posts I have read. As a Phi Sig, I am really mad!
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09-06-2002, 11:04 AM
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PM_Mama00 quote:
I don't think you're understand what AlphaChi's point is...
It's a matter of disrespect from a fraternity who sounds like it just plane ol sucks.
You're right, nothing can be done but I'll be damned if anyone disrespected the letters of Phi Mu.
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I understand the point, I was just making another one in response to her point about punishing them and in response to the self-righteous comments that some people were making. I just feel that, as much as it sucks, you have to understand that things happen that don't always make you happy and not everyone will respect your letters as much as you do no matter how hard you try to make them.
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09-06-2002, 11:36 AM
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I think what makes me mad here is that these were GREEKS doing it. I don't expect a non-Greek to understand. And hey, if I see a homeless guy in my shirt, at least he has a shirt, you know? Is anyone likely to think he's an AXD, or trying to make fun of us?
As Greeks, even former Greeks, I would expect more of these guys. But then again, maybe their attitude is why they are former Greeks!
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09-06-2002, 12:27 PM
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What is a Sammie?
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09-06-2002, 12:40 PM
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Soror, it's slang for Sigma Alpha Mu, an NIC fraternity.
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09-06-2002, 01:56 PM
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ok, two examples:
for some odd reason a local frat on my campus had their pledges dress up as women and wore white t-shirts with magic markered letters of all the diff. sororities. nothing happened, bc the local isn't even recognized by the college and it was passed over as nothing.
then one thursday when the popular greek bar is packed, a bunch on GDI's (which are totally different then non-greeks. to me, GDI is an organization, mainly made up by the newspaper staff to shine poor light on greeks 24-7...they in essence are a org. to promote cruelty to greeks) showed up at the bar with sewed on letters of all the diff. frats and sororities on campus that they purchased at the book store, and then drank in them in front of all the greeks at the bar. A fight then ensued, resulting in the GDI taken to the hospital. You would think that something would have happened to the GDI's who did this, but nothing did. However, the fraternity guys that sent the GDI to the hospital got arreseted.
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09-06-2002, 02:13 PM
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Well, this whole thing is upsetting. I'm more mad at the ex Phi sigs than the frat gusy though. I wish people would just disafiliate, and not do such immature things such as give their letters to some frat guys as a prank.
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09-06-2002, 03:55 PM
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Originally posted by MaxxieAXID
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then one thursday when the popular greek bar is packed, a bunch on GDI's (which are totally different then non-greeks. to me, GDI is an organization, mainly made up by the newspaper staff to shine poor light on greeks 24-7...they in essence are a org. to promote cruelty to greeks) showed up at the bar with sewed on letters of all the diff. frats and sororities on campus that they purchased at the book store, and then drank in them in front of all the greeks at the bar. A fight then ensued, resulting in the GDI taken to the hospital. You would think that something would have happened to the GDI's who did this, but nothing did. However, the fraternity guys that sent the GDI to the hospital got arreseted.
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Now, see this is what I am talking about; everyone is getting upset over these "injustices." What exactly would you think would happen to the GDIs? They did nothing against the law... in the United States you can pretty much wear whatever you want, short of indecent exposure. The rule that non-initiated members can not wear letters is a FRATERNITY RULE -- how can you expect people to be punished for breaking a fraternity's rules if they are not members? Of course the fraternity member was arrested... he did break a law. Assault, battery, etc...
Last edited by sororitygirl2; 09-06-2002 at 04:32 PM.
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