Baby raped! - Page 2

James · #16 08-23-2002, 07:00 PM

APhi and others.

ITs a dangerous attitude to assume that just because someone is picked up for something
they are actually guilty of it.

They actually executed the alleged kidnapper of the Lindbergh Baby and yet it came out
later that he very likely wasn't the one to kidnap and kill the child.

There was police misconduct, prosecutorial misconduct, and more.

The books on the subject seem to agree that it was understood within the upper echelons
of people involved with the case that boy executed wasn't the one that did it . . . they
knew this at the time of the trial!

But there was a lot of politcal pressure at the time to end the case, so everyone stayed
silent.

Also when you, APhi, choose to use emotion or hysteria as an argument:

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"Sooooo... You're defending a baby rapist. Okaaaayyy!

Example: Recent episode of South Park. "So what do you see as the advantages of toddler
murder?" Tweak "Well, it's easy." Newscaster "Yes, it is easy." ".

You make it very difficult to argue a case on its objective merits . . . emotive arguments
are virtually to argue.

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Originally posted by APhi

Okay, and what I'm saying is that this is the sleaziest of all mentality's to look at this case
in terms of loopholes, money and personal glory rather than seeking appropriate
punishment for the guilty.

I don't think we're jumping to conclusions here. If the police located the boy and believe
there was strong enough evidence to arrest and charge him, he probably did it. I don't
think we're dealing with a criminal mastermind.

aephi alum · #17 08-23-2002, 07:03 PM

OK, I just lost my appetite for dinner

Whoever is responsible for this atrocity should be severely punished.

Peaches-n-Cream · #18 08-23-2002, 07:44 PM

What happened to this child is disgusting, criminal, and devastating to both the baby and her family. Unfortunately, child rape and molestation are a regular occurance. This girl isn't the first and sadly won't be the last.

The young man is only accused and charged with the crime. He has a right to due process and to have an attorney defend him. Someone will defend this accused baby rapist. It's his right as indicated in the Constitution. I hope for the sake of the safety of children everywhere that they have the right man and that he will be removed from society for as long as the law will allow.

UF_PikePC98 · #19 08-23-2002, 08:47 PM

Someone PM'd me this question.....

Who do you think is worse, The person who committed the crime or the Lawyer who defends him? Also what do you think of the attorney who presents a defense case so well that the death penalty is out of question AND the person is aquitted of all charges?

Personally I think the lawyer shouldn't be in question when it comes to a moral and ethical stance in the situation. He is doing his job regardless of what he thinks of the accused. His job is to keep his client out of prison, thats what he/she gets paid for.

NinjaPoodle · #20 08-23-2002, 08:58 PM

This is beyond disgusting.

My heart cries for the child and the parents.

WHOEVER did it should not be executed..the person responsible should have to go to jail for a life term and suffer every single day for the rest of his wasted life. he should also be castrated.

James · #21 08-23-2002, 10:24 PM

Thats an undestandable emotional response. By the way, what is a NinjaPoodle.

I think that most attourney's believe they are defending due process of law rather the individual per se, because in an absolute sense they have no way of knowing whether the person "committed" the crime or not, or what circumstances may have existed.

Remember, that it is an adversarial process, so your eventual guilt or innocence will very much depend on how good the two opposing attournies are, and what resources they have avilable to them.

Also, the prosecution has an overwhelming advantage both in resources and "moral authority".

That is why we get so outraged when a person walks, the vast maority cop a plea or are convicted.

Rudey · #22 08-23-2002, 11:15 PM

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Originally posted by TKE209Sweethrt
Ahh...this is when I believe the practice of simply leading the person in the street and shooting them is applicable.

On a side note, a few miles down the road from me a man broke his 3 month old's legs, he apparantly threw the poor child repeatedly against the wall. Also, it was found that he had done repeated acts to the child previously, such as breaking its ribs and etc. But of course, he'll get off as usual, just like every other scumbag. And here...the local News covered a guy that starved his dog yet not a single word about the child. Don't you looooooovvvvvvveeeeeee society?

Does TKE "own" just you or your ideas as well?

-Rudey
--I'd ask for a refund or a return if I was a TKE

Fewdfreak · #23 08-23-2002, 11:19 PM

That case is so terrible, if that man did in fact do that, he should punished severly. There was a case around her last month when a father beat his 16-month old to death, breaking his neck and fracturing his skull. The sad part is that nine years prior he'd been convicted on child endangerment charges and child abuse because he's broken both of his infant daughters legs. He got off, and remained living with his girfriend and the daughter that he beat. Now, nine years later it the life of a child had to be taken for something to be done. These people are just sick.

The1calledTKE · #24 08-23-2002, 11:21 PM

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Originally posted by Rudey

Does TKE "own" just you or your ideas as well?

-Rudey
--I'd ask for a refund or a return if I was a TKE

Was that called for?

Rudey · #25 08-23-2002, 11:24 PM

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Originally posted by zntke711

Was that called for?

Yes it was.

-Rudey
--When she gives you the refund, shipping and handling charges will be deducted.

The1calledTKE · #26 08-23-2002, 11:29 PM

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Originally posted by Rudey

Yes it was.

-Rudey
--When she gives you the refund, shipping and handling charges will be deducted.

Thats cool everyone knows that people only insult people that they are threaten or are jelious of. If they weren't threaten they would stay quiet because they don't care.

Rudey · #27 08-23-2002, 11:37 PM

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Originally posted by zntke711

Thats cool everyone knows that people only insult people that they are threaten or are jelious of. If they weren't threaten they would stay quiet because they don't care.

What a joke.

-Rudey
--You should stay quiet Debby...because you don't care.

The1calledTKE · #28 08-23-2002, 11:40 PM

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Originally posted by Rudey

What a joke.

-Rudey
--You should stay quiet Debby...because you don't care.

Glad I could make you laugh.

ZTAMiami · #29 08-24-2002, 12:55 AM

Related question:

Do you think that castrating a pedophile or rapist before he is released (if he is released) would really solve anything?

I think that is someone wants to hurt a child they'll do it regardless. Castration will prevent rape in the traditional sense but they will still have the ability to sexually molest a child.

Please lets stay on topic here. This is a serious matter. Lets not get into pointless trash talking.

thesweetestone · #30 08-24-2002, 01:50 AM

Oprah's show was about this topic yesterday. She said that 8 out of 10 child molesters are someone who knows the child/family.
It's really sad that there are so many sick people out there doing this to kids.