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06-02-2014, 10:28 PM
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Exactly. Colgate Panhellenic believes that an optimal chapter size is around 100 to 120, and the chapters are far too large. (A similar argument in favor of expansion was made at W&L before ADPi colonized.) At least one women's group on campus has made the case (a la Dartmouth) for gender parity -- an equal number of fraternities and sororities. A lot of these letters are (or were) available on the University website. A very interesting University -- high academics and selectivity make it desirable, but there is a bucketful of challenges as well. Advising is a challenge -- a lot can be done long-distance, but Utica is the closest city and there isn't a large grad program (where there may be alumnae students). Syracuse/Manlius is a good 30 miles west.
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06-02-2014, 10:43 PM
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Clarification for Colgate: All of the groups have a retention issue. New member classes are huge because there are only 3 NPC groups, and, if you can dig up older copies of the University paper, the administration has not been Greek-friendly. Theta closed at Colgate roughly the same time that it closed at Johns Hopkins. Like JHU (now recolonized), I think Theta has an agreement to return at some point to Colgate.
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I think it's interesting that both groups continued to function as underground sororities after their charters were withdrawn. According to an article I found, Colgate's suspension of the Theta chapter ended this past school year, so it looks like a new Theta chapter could return as soon as this fall. I am curious to see how sorority life will grow on this campus.
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06-02-2014, 11:14 PM
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^ I'm curious when Clemson will open again
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06-02-2014, 11:31 PM
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^ I'm curious when Clemson will open again 
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In my opinion we could support at least one more chapter, probably two, and I hope that we vote to open after recruitment this fall! I could wax poetic about reasons for and against so I won't get myself started but I would love to have another group come on board.
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06-03-2014, 09:20 AM
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I was really hoping we would get it the last time y'all opened. Sigh. Perhaps the next time.
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06-18-2014, 07:52 PM
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University of Kentucky will be opening in the next year or so. There was interest expressed by Sigma Kappa (re-opening their chapter that closed here several years ago) but I believed they either passed on that opportunity.
After recruitment this coming August, chapter total will be approaching 250+ most likely which is far too large for this campus.
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06-18-2014, 08:37 PM
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University of Kentucky will be opening in the next year or so. There was interest expressed by Sigma Kappa (re-opening their chapter that closed here several years ago) but I believed they either passed on that opportunity.
After recruitment this coming August, chapter total will be approaching 250+ most likely which is far too large for this campus.
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 Wow. I am not sure, but I beleive 250 may be more than twice the average chapter size from when I was at UK.
Granted that was back in the last century.
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06-18-2014, 09:43 PM
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Yeah, me too. I was at UK 93-96 at total was 90. it's 220 now, I'm expecting a pledge class of 85-100 (last year quota was 82) which will push total up to around 250 I suspect.
it's crazy. None of these houses were designed to handle chapters this big. It's great that the system is as successful as it is, but we need another chapter. Kinda sad Sigma Kappa didn't decide to return this fall. Hopefully they'll be part of the discussion when it officially opens for expansion.
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06-19-2014, 11:31 AM
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I would love for us to recolonize our Xi chapter at UK
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06-19-2014, 12:18 PM
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Does anyone know if U of F has made a decision concerning bringing another sorority to campus?
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06-19-2014, 12:51 PM
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Yeah, me too. I was at UK 93-96 at total was 90. it's 220 now, I'm expecting a pledge class of 85-100 (last year quota was 82) which will push total up to around 250 I suspect.
it's crazy. None of these houses were designed to handle chapters this big. It's great that the system is as successful as it is, but we need another chapter. Kinda sad Sigma Kappa didn't decide to return this fall. Hopefully they'll be part of the discussion when it officially opens for expansion.
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Isn't the land on Rose Lane from around Transylvania Park over to Woodland Avenue designated (zoned) for GLOs? If so, I suspect the sorority selected will have to be willing to build there. The up side is that the UK Administration continues to be supportive of new Greek housing.
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I would love for us to recolonize our Xi chapter at UK
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 I am good friends with members of Xi Chapter and I know they would love to have their chapter back at UK as well.
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06-19-2014, 01:33 PM
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UF is open for extension. They voted last spring. PC is putting together a team for the presentations of the groups that are interested. Presentations will take place this fall with the hopes of the new house colonizing in 2015. There are now lots available to build a house (a must at UF) over by fraternity row. It will be interesting to see who presents! There are three NPCs with closed chapters but two of them are smaller and I am not sure what their ability would be to build a house right away.
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06-19-2014, 01:34 PM
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Does anyone know if U of F has made a decision concerning bringing another sorority to campus?
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UF Panhellenic did vote to expand. I'm just speculating, but that announcement was made around June 1, so I would guess the actual selection of finalists and presentations won't be made until Fall.
ETA: Sorry to cross-post with you gg!
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06-19-2014, 01:34 PM
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Regarding UF, I know they're open for expansion. I don't know anything about if or who has submitted packets. I think presentations would be in the fall, because the sorority is supposed to colonize Fall 2015.
And regarding UK, fingers crossed, for if and when they open
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06-19-2014, 01:35 PM
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ggforever and irishpipes beat me to it
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