Little Miss Perfect/Toddlers and Tiaras

[BetteDavisEyes]

Originally Posted by elusive47

Was that the episode with the babies whose mother said she spent $250,000 on pageants? Because I believe she said one baby won more than the other.

I just watched this episode right now. The little girl who started crying when she lost the High Supreme to the baby needed that loss. LOL! It's horrible for me to laugh but kids who think they're the best at everything need to get knocked off their high horses once in a while.

The mom who spends the fortune on her twins & the pageants is really a woman? I swear I thought she was a man in drag.

Mackenzie needs a good spanking.

[BetteDavisEyes]

About last night's episode, Rumble in the Jungle. Just some thoughts:

1. I find it interesting that the pageant director also just happens to be the talent agent for both Eden & Alexis who coincidentally just happen to win the top 2 titles at this pageant. While I don't agree with the mom who said the pageant was made just for Eden's benefit, I do think it was ultimately set up so that the top winners were members of this woman's pageant agency & since Eden is their headliner...

2. I laughed when one of the judges said that absolutely the director influences how judges vote. Gee. You think?

3. To the whining mom, if you're unhappy your child took only the title of Princess, maybe next time work with her so that she doesn't just stand in front of the judges with a "deer in the headlights" look. That doesn't tend to impress judges. Also, her being upset & saying she never would have competed if she had known Eden would be there was lame. If you can't run with the big dogs, then get out of the show.

4. Was anyone one else disturbed at the scene where Alexis was at the chiropractor's office getting an adjustment?

5. GROSS to seeing Eden shave that man's belly. Just nasty.

6. Lastly, I'm still trying to figure out the "mystique" that is Eden b/c frankly, I don't find her that cute, I don't see any talent whatsoever in her (though to be fair, I don't see talent in the majority of the contestants) and her stage "presence" is actually mildly creepy.

[ree-Xi]

Originally Posted by BetteDavisEyes

About last night's episode, Rumble in the Jungle. Just some thoughts:

1. I find it interesting that the pageant director also just happens to be the talent agent for both Eden & Alexis who coincidentally just happen to win the top 2 titles at this pageant. While I don't agree with the mom who said the pageant was made just for Eden's benefit, I do think it was ultimately set up so that the top winners were members of this woman's pageant agency & since Eden is their headliner...

2. I laughed when one of the judges said that absolutely the director influences how judges vote. Gee. You think?

3. To the whining mom, if you're unhappy your child took only the title of Princess, maybe next time work with her so that she doesn't just stand in front of the judges with a "deer in the headlights" look. That doesn't tend to impress judges. Also, her being upset & saying she never would have competed if she had known Eden would be there was lame. If you can't run with the big dogs, then get out of the show.

4. Was anyone one else disturbed at the scene where Alexis was at the chiropractor's office getting an adjustment?

5. GROSS to seeing Eden shave that man's belly. Just nasty.

6. Lastly, I'm still trying to figure out the "mystique" that is Eden b/c frankly, I don't find her that cute, I don't see any talent whatsoever in her (though to be fair, I don't see talent in the majority of the contestants) and her stage "presence" is actually mildly creepy.

Co-sign on everything you said.

Eden: Hubby had to walk out of the room when Eden started screaming her song. Which, by the way, sucked on so many levels. Her "agent" wrote that? All the kid did was yell incoherently (for a fun time, check out Eden's interview on "The Talk". Leah Remini's face is priceless).

They actually dragged that little girl to malls to sing her wretched "song". I wonder how many people left the mall early that day because of her "performance".

Mikki Wood - Eden's mother - is a freak. Sorry, lady, but a "TWO MILLION DOLLAR CONTRACT!" is nothing these days. Your kid isn't an actor, singer, or entertainer in any form. She walks around a stage like she has a pole up her bum while blinking at the judges. It's not a talent. I think that everyone has a talent, but the entertainment industry isn't the place for Eden.

And the moment when Eden was throwing a hissy and her mother put her head to Eden's, my stomach literally dropped. I thought the poor kid had gone catatonic thanks to the stress that witch puts on her. "She had a choice", Mikki said. Yeah, she chose not to disappoint her freak of a mother who has spent more than $100K in exchange for some cheap plastic crowns and dubious titles.

Gabrielle
That poor 3-yo. The way her mother was pulling and yanking and throwing her around on camera made me wonder just how rough she is with her when the cameras aren't rolling. The mother got so mean, and the way she spoke to her - she could barely control her anger then, I don't want to know how much she lets it out on that kid. It made me very, very sad.

And what was up with the kid sticking her butt out like that? She even did it while being interviewed. If we had done that as kids, my mom would have smacked us til kingdom come. Ladies don't do that. Not even 3-year old girls. The mother thought it was funny. I found it vulgar.

Alexis
Now she is a gorgeous girl (and very poised) but she needs to stop telling everyone how pretty she is. They all do. It's their damn mothers telling them that they are prettier than everyone else, because conceit isn't pretty. Right now, she seems very sweet. I don't remember her throwing any fits. She was a little kid without being a brat like most of the kids we see on the show.

[DaffyKD]

Originally Posted by Jen

I agree with all of your post BetteDavisEyes!


I can't wait until Eden's in her 20s writing a tell all book about her Hollywood stage parent creeptastic life.

Will Eden make it to her 20's. The pressure she has been put under by creepymom leads me to believe that heavy drug use or suicide is in her future. It is scary that her mother is supposedly a teacher-- would hate to have her teach my kids. Can you just see her, "Suzi, you smile is not big enough to compete with my little Eden." "Johnny, you can't be in the school's talent show as you are no where near as talented as my little Eden." "So and So, no sorority will accept you when you go to college. You are not as pretty as my little Eden, you weigh 5 pounds too much, you don't know how to put on glitz, etc." Pity the poor special needs child who gets stuck in her classroom.

DaffyKD

[FSUZeta]

i am so surprised that my brother and sister in law did not put their only child, a daughter, in these pageants when she was younger. she participated in dance and gymnastics, and when recital time rolled around, the owner of the dance/gymnastics school had the kids sell ads in the recital program and various prizes and trophies were awarded based on the $ amount of ads sold. my brother and sil bragged every year that my niece had "sold" the most ads and won the biggest trophy, when in reality(something their lives were lacking at the time) they had sold the ads for their daughter and she got some tacky, big a** trophy. same mentality as the pageant parents.

[elusive47]

Originally Posted by Jen

Her mother can't spell worth a damn if Eden's facebook page is any indication. She probably cranks out little illiterate students with fake hair.

I don't know how Eden's mom is a teacher when she uses phrases like "fixing to". I know there is no such thing as a perfect teacher, but at least could she speak standard American English?

Originally Posted by ree-Xi

Eden: Hubby had to walk out of the room when Eden started screaming her song. Which, by the way, sucked on so many levels. Her "agent" wrote that? All the kid did was yell incoherently. They actually dragged that little girl to malls to sing her wretched "song". I wonder how many people left the mall early that day because of her "performance".

I agree, I had to mute my TV when that song was on. Instead of being a "recording artist", maybe mama ought to buy her child some singing lessons.

As for the three year old with the pushy mother, did anyone else get the feeling that the little girl didn't want to do pageants, and had no concept of where she was half the time?

[elusive47]

Question: Last Night's episode was billed as Eden's retirement from pageants. But in this episode she is still only 5 years old. Whereas in the Summer season premiere episode where she competes against MaKenzie, she has turned 6. If she continued to do pageants after her 6th birthday, how is yesterday's episode indicative of retirement?

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by ree-Xi

Alexis
Now she is a gorgeous girl (and very poised) but she needs to stop telling everyone how pretty she is. They all do. It's their damn mothers telling them that they are prettier than everyone else, because conceit isn't pretty. Right now, she seems very sweet. I don't remember her throwing any fits. She was a little kid without being a brat like most of the kids we see on the show.

Right. You tell a kid over and over how pretty she is. Then she hits that awkward 6th grader stage and is suddenly less cute. The average kid takes that awkwardness hard. Imagine how hard it is on someone who spent the first 10 years of life racking up trophies based on her looks.

I think the BIGGEST problem I have with this is parents telling their kids that they're going to be the next Hannah Montana or iCarly and that pageants are a stepping stone to that. They are SO NOT. The average child actor on TV was never in a pageant.

[Optimus Prime]

I can't stand Eden's mother but I was glad to see her being kind to Eden's hairdresser when she was about to have a meltdown. I was expecting her to lose her mind on the poor woman.

[Xidelt]

Does anyone else think MaKenzie is going to grow up to be a really manipulative woman? She can change her mood in an instant! She goes from being a little weirdo (telling her rolling suitcase to "hush") to screaming at her mother to being a little on-stage charmer.

[BetteDavisEyes]

Originally Posted by Optimus Prime

I can't stand Eden's mother but I was glad to see her being kind to Eden's hairdresser when she was about to have a meltdown. I was expecting her to lose her mind on the poor woman.

Maybe it's just my mind playing tricks on me but wasn't her hairdresser & the other blonde lady also on previous episodes showcasing their daughters?


I'm so going to look for that facebook page. This I gotta see.

[Optimus Prime]

Originally Posted by Jen

Yes! The hairdresser was Fransoly, the mother of Dianely. She was horrible to Dianely. I hate that woman.

I didn't even catch that. I haven't watched every episode so I probably missed it.

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by Xidelt

Does anyone else think MaKenzie is going to grow up to be a really manipulative woman? She can change her mood in an instant! She goes from being a little weirdo (telling her rolling suitcase to "hush") to screaming at her mother to being a little on-stage charmer.

That was beyond funny...I hope she was only being silly talking to that suitcase...lol! I can't stand the bratty tantrum throwing mood that some of the girls display but it's not their fault. Overall I will never be comfortable with little girls wearing so much make-up and fake hair and focussing on a perceived standard of beauty.

[nolesgirl]

Has anyone seen Dance Moms yet? Its on Lifetime and only a few episodes have aired

I feel so bad for the dancers! Not only are their moms awful stage moms, but their dance teacher is an emtionless yelling machine!!

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by nolesgirl

Has anyone seen Dance Moms yet? Its on Lifetime and only a few episodes have aired

I feel so bad for the dancers! Not only are their moms awful stage moms, but their dance teacher is an emtionless yelling machine!!

I saw the one where the Broadway scout came.

I kept wondering how a woman who looks like she's hiding Rosanne Barr (and John Goodman, too) under her clothes can be a dance instructor??? How can you teach if you can't demonstrate anything? Also, her just expecting the moms to take care of things (like decorating props) and then getting pissed when the moms haven't stopped their own lives to support their daughter's dancing hobby is ridiculous. She even got pissed because one woman refused to do the "Mom dance" (who does that anyway?) at the recital because she was graduating with her doctorate that day.