Osama Bin Laden Dead - Page 6

IrishLake · #76 05-02-2011, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel

Let's put this on a smaller level. Imagine seeing the family members of a murder victim leaving the death chamber partying and chanting "USA, USA." It's just not done and is a little crass. As much as this is a part of a war, this WAS a man's life. He was a terrorist, but celebrating a man's death like it's a party lowers our social mores quite a bit.

Why would you put it on a smaller level? Why would you even want to? Why would people who witnessed a state sanctioned execution chant "USA?" I know you are just trying to make a comparission, but I don't think one can be made on this level. If that "family" of the hypothetical murder victim wanted to celebrate when leaving the death chamber, by all means it would be within their rights to do so.

Something of this nature just cannot be compared to anything smaller in scale. Yes, it was a mans life. I thank the Navy Seals and support teams who made sure it came to an end. What's the cheesey quote I see all the time? "It's God's job to pass judgement, it's the Soldier/Marine/Elite Special Ops Team's job to arrange the meeting." Yup, that one. I like that one today.

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Originally Posted by Kappamd

No, it is not the end of our struggle with terrorism, but it is the end of Osama Bin Laden and the world is a better place because of it.

I think this is the bottom line.

agzg · #77 05-02-2011, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Kappamd

Also, it was interesting hearing reactions from some of my Pakistani classmates today. They were apologetic, almost like they were embarassed that their country "had him all along" as someone put it.

Oh I hope they don't dwell on this feeling. Bin Laden was as big a threat to all Pakistanis as he was to the United States, but it's certainly not the Pakistani people's fault that he was hiding there. The U.S. has suspected as much for years.

DeltaBetaBaby · #78 05-02-2011, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Kappamd

I was wondering about this as well. It will be interesting to see where our relationship with Pakistan goes from here.

Also, it was interesting hearing reactions from some of my Pakistani classmates today. They were apologetic, almost like they were embarassed that their country "had him all along" as someone put it.

It may also be one of those things where Pakistan was like "go ahead, but we're going to continue to deny that we said that, so as not to piss off other Islamic nations".

PiKA2001 · #79 05-02-2011, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by AGDee

I am confident that photos exist, but it is my understanding that showing them is a violation of the Geneva Convention.

Not if it's for the purpose of positive identification but I'm not sure myself. I do recall seeing Saddam Hussein's boys all dead on CNN though.

PiKA2001 · #80 05-02-2011, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

It may also be one of those things where Pakistan was like "go ahead, but we're going to continue to deny that we said that, so as not to piss off other Islamic nations".

This

AZTheta · #81 05-02-2011, 11:08 AM

With all due respect, and everyone has an opinion...

Mine: we are better than that. To exult or celebrate in a death is morally wrong. That, I can't justify, no matter how the argument is dressed up.

That said, in my opinion, this is merely a close of a horrific chapter. Personally, I remain gravely concerned about what may come in the next chapter.

Pray for peace, but prepare for the alternatives. I offer prayers of compassion and comfort for all those who have suffered losses in this ongoing, senseless conflict. There isn't a person I know whose life hasn't been affected. And I offer prayers of strength, protection, and continued courage to those who are on the front lines, and whose lives are in immediate danger.

DrPhil · #82 05-02-2011, 11:12 AM

These posts made me think of:

Jokingly serious.

txAOII_15 · #83 05-02-2011, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel

Let's put this on a smaller level. Imagine seeing the family members of a murder victim leaving the death chamber partying and chanting "USA, USA." It's just not done and is a little crass. As much as this is a part of a war, this WAS a man's life. He was a terrorist, but celebrating a man's death like it's a party lowers our social mores quite a bit.

i wholeheartedly agree with you AOII_Angel. celebrating any person's death under any circumstances is crass. while patriotism is a wonderful thing, lets also not forget the other side of the story. yes, september 11 was a terrible tragedy and my heart goes but to the thousands of people affected by it, but it pales in comparison to past us involvement in situations abroad that have violated human rights and have taken the lives of countless numbers of people. an eye for an eye is not the way to show superiority, but rather just sinks us morally. while im glad that the world as a whole is a safer place with one less extremist running around spewing hateful propaganda, it should not mean that we take it upon ourselves to celebrate how "blessed" we are as a nation by god and exclude the billions of other people that happen to share our planet.

als463 · #84 05-02-2011, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

I'm a little about people giving actual credit for this to Obama. He happened to be dealt a royal flush, nothing was really of his own doing.Either way, I'm also a little squicked out by people celebrating his death. Even my Pastor's wife was Facebooking about it. She was proud because apparently it was the Navy that took him out, and her.son is currently enrolled at Annapolis.

Also, my Pastor had coincidentally (or not so much when you consider the Holy Spirit) chosen yesterday for a sermon on the Revelation/end-times. Interesting stuff, especially when he taught on the Muslim version.

That's all I could think about when reading everyone's FB status updates and watching his speech on the news. It was the MILITARY and I'd like to see proof. I think it was PIKA2001 that brought up about the Hussein brothers-I can tell you that I know, for a fact, they were def. killed because I was literally stationed 2 blocks down from where their bodies were. So, I'm not sure about the GC on showing pictures...hmmmm....

DeltaBetaBaby · #85 05-02-2011, 11:32 AM

Also, a lot of people in my death pool have him, so I'm kinda bitter about that.

txAOII_15 · #86 05-02-2011, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by AzTheta

With all due respect, and everyone has an opinion...

Mine: we are better than that. To exult or celebrate in a death is morally wrong. That, I can't justify, no matter how the argument is dressed up.

That said, in my opinion, this is merely a close of a horrific chapter. Personally, I remain gravely concerned about what may come in the next chapter.

Pray for peace, but prepare for the alternatives. I offer prayers of compassion and comfort for all those who have suffered losses in this ongoing, senseless conflict. There isn't a person I know whose life hasn't been affected. And I offer prayers of strength, protection, and continued courage to those who are on the front lines, and whose lives are in immediate danger.

well said, AzTheta. couldnt have said it better myself.

knight_shadow · #87 05-02-2011, 11:33 AM

I think people are celebrating the fact that "The leader of Al Qaeda" is dead, not "Osama Bin Laden the person" is dead.

knight_shadow · #88 05-02-2011, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by als463

That's all I could think about when reading everyone's FB status updates and watching his speech on the news. It was the MILITARY and I'd like to see proof. I think it was PIKA2001 that brought up about the Hussein brothers-I can tell you that I know, for a fact, they were def. killed because I was literally stationed 2 blocks down from where their bodies were. So, I'm not sure about the GC on showing pictures...hmmmm....

The military who was acting on a directive from the Commander-In-Chief.

agzg · #89 05-02-2011, 11:42 AM

DNA Confirmed:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011...officials-say/

txAOII_15 · #90 05-02-2011, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow

I think people are celebrating the fact that "The leader of Al Qaeda" is dead, not "Osama Bin Laden the person" is dead.

i would be more inclined to believe this if i hadnt seen so many "celebratory OBL death" statuses on fb and heard of so many people partying to celebrate his death. im not sure people are thinking past OBL's death to the implications it will have on terrorism worldwide.