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Old 04-29-2011, 09:36 AM
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If William's heir is his child, Catherine will become Queen Mother and the crown will be passed on. When William is King, Catherine will technically be Queen Consort, but referred to as Queen Catherine.

As to her current title, Catherine is HRH Duchess of Cambridge and referred to as Your Highness.
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Old 04-29-2011, 09:38 AM
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So, since she's Princess William of Wales, Duchess of Cambridge, but will use the Duchess title as her "official" title, will people (or, I guess are people supposed to) refer to her as Princess Kate, Lady Kate, Duchess Kate??
I'm sure many will call her Princess Kate, or Princess Catherine (I've heard this on the BBC this morning), though that is totally incorrect. As a general rule, only women born as princesses are called Princess FirstName. Lady Kate would be wrong -- she is now of higher rank now than "Lady." And Duchess FirstName is never correct. The proper way to refer to her is Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge (or the Duchess of Cambridge), just as Camilla is Duchess of Cornwall.

For what it's worth, Kate's full style and title is Her Royal Highness Princess William Arthur Philip Louis, Duchess of Cambridge, Countess of Strathearn, Baroness Carrickfergus, Master of Arts. And here is her new coat of arms, which impales her recently granted arms with William's:



Trivia: The three new titles (Duke/Duchess of Cambridge, Earl/Countess of Strathearn and Baron/Baroness Carrickfergus) include English (Cambridge), Scottish (Stathearn) and Irish (Carrickfergus) titles. The last Duke of Cambridge (Prince William, grandson of George III) refused to enter an arranged marriage because he thought they were doomed to failure. Instead he married a commoner for love. He married an actress, Sarah Louisa Fairbrother -- after he had two children by her and she was pregnant with a third child.

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Other random monarchy questions: if William becomes king someday, is she as a former commoner eligible to become queen? If so, and William dies before her, does she remain queen, or does it pass to the next heir?
Yes, she will be queen if/when he becomes king. (She'll be a queen consort like Elizabeth, the Queen Mother, not a queen regnant like Elizabeth II.) Once a queen, always a queen (unless you're married to Henry VIII). So if William dies first she will still be Queen Catherine, though at that point, she would be a queen dowager, not a queen consort. If one of her children becames king/queen, she'd be the Queen Mother.
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Old 04-29-2011, 09:56 AM
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Thanks! I don't have cable so I watched the live streaming online and just woke up to watch the highlight reel. But the announcers talked all through the vows.
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As to her current title, Catherine is HRH Duchess of Cambridge and referred to as Your Highness.
I'm still betting everyone will (informally) call her Princess Kate just like Diana was Princess Di. One of a million ways people will compare and link her to William's mother every step of the way.
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For what it's worth, Kate's full style and title is Her Royal Highness Princess William Arthur Philip Louis, Duchess of Cambridge, Countess of Strathearn, Baroness Carrickfergus, Master of Arts. And here is her new coat of arms, which impales her recently granted arms with William's:



Trivia: The three new titles (Duke/Duchess of Cambridge, Earl/Countess of Strathearn and Baron/Baroness Carrickfergus) include English (Cambridge), Scottish (Stathearn) and Irish (Carrickfergus) titles. The last Duke of Cambridge (Prince William, grandson of George III) refused to enter an arranged marriage because he thought they were doomed to failure. Instead he married a commoner for love. He married an actress, Sarah Louisa Fairbrother -- after he had two children by her and she was pregnant with a third child.

Yes, she will be queen if/when he becomes king. (She'll be a queen consort like Elizabeth, the Queen Mother, not a queen regnant like Elizabeth II.) Once a queen, always a queen (unless you're married to Henry VIII). So if William dies first she will still be Queen Catherine, though at that point, she would be a queen dowager, not a queen consort. If one of her children becames king/quoeen, she'd be the Queen Mother.
1. I knew this was you before I even saw the username because you know all the royal stuffs.
2. Ooooh pretty unicorn!
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Old 04-29-2011, 09:58 AM
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They loved beautiful. Stiff and a bit nervous, but beautiful.

All I know is that I'm exhausted now.

The Royal Wedding will re-aire on 20/20 tonight @ 9:00.
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Old 04-29-2011, 09:59 AM
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I'm 10 times more interested in MysticCat's teachings than I am with this whole wedding thing.

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Old 04-29-2011, 10:03 AM
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If William's heir is his child, Catherine will become Queen Mother and the crown will be passed on. When William is King, Catherine will technically be Queen Consort, but referred to as Queen Catherine.

As to her current title, Catherine is HRH Duchess of Cambridge and referred to as Your Highness.
FWIW, the Queen Mother is a relatively new term. Queen Elizabeth II's mother was the first to use it.

Unfortunately, I had to take allergy medication last night, and managed to sleep through two alarms. I'm watching it now on BBC America (thank heavens I took the day off!).
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Old 04-29-2011, 10:04 AM
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I guess there's enough MysticCat cybercrush to go around.
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Old 04-29-2011, 10:05 AM
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Can I still call her Princess Shinyhair?
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Old 04-29-2011, 10:06 AM
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Old 04-29-2011, 10:12 AM
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I can't get over the video of Prince Charles breakdancing. Awwwww.

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Old 04-29-2011, 10:13 AM
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I guess there's enough MysticCat cybercrush to go around.
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lol
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Old 04-29-2011, 10:13 AM
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I'm staying on the hair thing (because I'm insanely jealous).

I'm so glad she wore it mostly down. Shiny hair like that shouldn't be hidden away.
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Old 04-29-2011, 10:16 AM
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1. I knew this was you before I even saw the username because you know all the royal stuffs.

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2. Ooooh pretty unicorn!
The unicorn is the traditional supporter of the Scottish royal arms. The Tudor monarchs used a lion (England) and a dragon (Wales) as supporters, but when James VI of Scotland became James I of England (after the death of Elizabeth I), he replaced the Welsh dragon with the Scottish unicorn.

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FWIW, the Queen Mother is a relatively new term. Queen Elizabeth II's mother was the first to use it.
Oh, I am loathe to challenge my Jamestown cousin on this one, but the title has been longer than that. The OED dates it back to the sixteenth century. Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother was the first person for whom it was a formal rather than informal title. Queen Mary and Queen Alexandra before her chose not to use the title. Before them, you have to go back a few centuries to find anyone who would even be entitled to be called Queen Mother.


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Old 04-29-2011, 10:16 AM
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I guess there's enough MysticCat cybercrush to go around.
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I want the full halo tiara upgrade. I'll send my royal pageboy around to fetch it.
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Old 04-29-2011, 10:39 AM
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I guess there's enough MysticCat cybercrush to go around.
*handing out extravagant Team MysticCat hats with unicorns and jewels attached*
*excitedly accepts hat*

Can we make t-shirts, too?!
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