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12-21-2010, 05:31 PM
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It sounds like Mal is a non-NPC sorority that participates in structured recruitment. There are plenty of smaller GLOs that require a statement of faith or something similar. If that's not a fit for the PNM, it can be obvious from the word go.
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12-21-2010, 09:55 PM
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It sounds like Mal is a non-NPC sorority that participates in structured recruitment. There are plenty of smaller GLOs that require a statement of faith or something similar. If that's not a fit for the PNM, it can be obvious from the word go.
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Um, not necessarily.
Beatles fans: Am I the only one who keeps thinking of Mal Evans every time I see this story?
RIP Mal.
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Um, not necessarily.
Beatles fans: Am I the only one who keeps thinking of Mal Evans every time I see this story?
RIP Mal. 
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No, you're not alone. And OP, you are certainly winner of the "phrase of the year" contest with "a certain amount of grooviness with Jesus". Mazel Tov.
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12-21-2010, 11:10 PM
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Actually, I keep thinking of Mal Reynolds from Firefly.
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12-22-2010, 04:01 PM
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I'd like to go on record as also not having a certain amount of grooviness with Jesus. And I have added grooviness to my dictionary.
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12-22-2010, 05:21 PM
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Ladies, I love you!!! An fyi: Just because a girl is named Leah Rosenberg doesn't make her Jewish. She could be from a mixed marriage. My daughters have very neutral sounding names and they are Jewish. I knew a girl named Maureen O'Connor. She was English, 100% Jewish, and her father's family was from Ireland. With all that confusion it was no wonder that they came to the United States. But the O'Connor part, well, they had a lot of explaining to do with the rabbi
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12-22-2010, 05:34 PM
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same with Alexander, Miller, Robinson.....all who will rabbis soon...
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12-27-2010, 12:52 AM
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Ladies, I love you!!! An fyi: Just because a girl is named Leah Rosenberg doesn't make her Jewish. She could be from a mixed marriage. My daughters have very neutral sounding names and they are Jewish. I knew a girl named Maureen O'Connor. She was English, 100% Jewish, and her father's family was from Ireland. With all that confusion it was no wonder that they came to the United States. But the O'Connor part, well, they had a lot of explaining to do with the rabbi
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I went through 9 years of Catholic grade school with a girl names Maureen Callaghan who was Jewish and who used to fascinate us with the Hebrew newspaper that she assured us that she could read, but none of us ever believed her. The thing didn't even have real letters, just some squiggles.
One of my Jewish brothers' family passed through Ireland too and he still has relatives there. His name seems to be a transliteration of Lithuanian Jewish into the closest Irish that they could find.
I don't know how to post links to specific posts, so I will quote the original below. I think that it is on topic and very touching and worth a read. I sent it to a Jewish pledge brother of mine who taught me lots of good Yiddish words like shmuck and blasted me every night when we lived in the house as pledges, with the soundtrack to Fiddler on the Roof. I of course, retaliated by blasting back Camelot and we still enjoy each others 'otherness' after several decades.
Here is the story of 'The Poor Shmuck and NPC Recruitment', and for those not fluent in Yiddish, at least to an Irish person's level: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schmuck_%28pejorative%29
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This is long, but it will be worth it when you get to the last line...I promise. Since most campuses are either finished with or are in the process of recruitment, I thought everyone could use a good laugh, although this wasn't very funny for the PNM involved.
This happened back in the late '60's when I was asked at the last minute, as a new alumna, to fill in on bid matching day for our SDT National VP who was ill. There were 7 sororities at my alma mater and hundreds of PNMs going through rush as we called it back then, so the process was complicated and I was a little nervous since this was my first time participating in bid matching.
When I entered the conference room where the bid matching was to occur, the first thing I noticed was how innapropriately dressed I was in my nice pantsuit (a new concept back then). Except for the alum from ZTA, who was about my age, all of the ladies were at least 20-30 years older than I and all wore hats and gloves and face powder and Shalimar perfume (like my mother) or something similar.
The ZTA alum glanced at me and winked. Thank goodness, I thought...an ally. I should mention that I was the only Jew there. I vowed to be the best possible alum in the room that day and make sure all the ladies left with a great impression of both myself and my sorority.
I sort of slunk into a seat and paid rapt attention as the Dean of Women explained how the process would work. Each of us would be given the bid sheets for a sorority other than her own so there would be not a whiff of collusion involved in the selection process. I believe I was given AXO's bid list and it was huge.
The Dean would read the PNM's name and first preference and if she were on the "A" list of her first choice, we were to say, "Bid" and mark the sheet. If she did not receive a bid from her first choice, the Dean would read the names of her second, then her third choice and eventually there would be a match. We were very diligent and we went through hundreds of names before we came to the one I never have forgotten to this day...I swear I am not making this up. I will change her first name to protect her just in case she ever reads this thread (heaven forbid), but the last name is the correct one.
The Dean announced in her fine British tea accent, "Barbara Shmuck." Why, why, why, with a Jew in the room, did this have to happen? I wasn't too concerned about the other fine ladies in the room but I knew if I so much as glanced at the Zeta babe across from me, I would lose it and completely embarrass myself and my sorority for life. I made a point of checking all the pages of my list thoroughly so I wouldn't be tempted to look across the table. It then occurred to me that there was total silence in the room. The Dean once again repeated the name, much to my consternation and again, total silence reigned. Apparently Barbara Shmuck, bless her heart, had not received a bid from any of the sororities including mine (I had already graduated and didn't know too many of our sisters but I can only imagine how difficult it was for them to meet Ms. Shmuck and try to keep a straight face). But this was not the part where I had a figurative heart attack...it was what happened next that did it for me.
After the third calling of Barbara’s name with no response, the Dean's secretary, a dear, sweet, little woman with gray hair let out a deep sigh and said in a perfectly sympathetic voice, "Poor Shmuck."
I died at that moment or at least wished I could have. I don't know how I made it through the remainder of the day but somehow I called upon everyone who was dear to me to lend me support so I wouldn't run screaming with laughter from the room. Again, I had to avoid looking up at the Zeta lady but I could tell she was in as much agony as I was. Finally, the Dean called for a break and Ms. Zeta and I ran from the building together, waiting until we were outside before we both collapsed upon one another. Luckily we didn't wet ourselves but we were close. At that moment, she was my dearest friend, someone to share a signal moment in my life...the funniest thing I ever heard in all my years.
There's more. The following day, after all the bids were matched and placed in envelopes, all seven of us sat at a table in the gym and all of the PNM's (or rushees as we called them) filed in to pick up their envelopes. Well, as the story of my life goes, I was sitting behind the sign that said P-S, so naturally a young lady in line finally reaches me and proudly says, "Barbara Shmuck." OMG...why me? This was before the days when the PNM's who didn't receive bids were called in advance. I handed her the envelope and watched while she opened it. Poor Shmuck was right. Her face crumpled and she looked at me through her tears, not knowing which sorority I represented and said, "Not even the Jewish girls wanted me!" Although this was kind of a slam (the Jewish girls being so low on the totem pole), I couldn't help feeling her pain. Through the lump in my throat, I encouraged her to get involved in campus activities, meet new people and rush again in the spring. I heard from our National VP, with whom I shared this incident, cursing her for calling me to sub for her (she died laughing by the way) that Barbara Shmuck did indeed receive a bid during Spring rush and was happily ensconsed in one of the big three and very thrilled about it.
Of all that has happened to me since that day, this has stayed with me. I consider it more than just a humorous story...it was one of redemption (mine and my ZTA pal) and the power of positive thinking. I am glad to share this with you.
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12-27-2010, 01:18 AM
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Thanks for the repost, that was well worth the read.
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12-27-2010, 02:40 PM
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Ladies, I love you!!! An fyi: Just because a girl is named Leah Rosenberg doesn't make her Jewish.
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same with Alexander, Miller, Robinson.....all who will rabbis soon...
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I know. I was trying to point out how silly it is to make snap judgments about people because of their names. There's a family in my congregation where the mother is Jewish, the father is Asian, and the children (who were raised Jewish) have "Jewish" first names and their father's last name.
In Conservative and Orthodox (and I believe also Reconstructionist) Judaism, you're considered Jewish if your mother is Jewish or if you convert. So Molly O'Shaughnessy, a Christian from Ireland, could marry Ira Rosenberg, a Jew from the Bronx, and have a daughter named Leah - and Leah wouldn't be considered Jewish unless she herself converted.
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12-27-2010, 02:48 PM
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Sorry for the double post... but that "Poor Schmuck" story had me ROTFL. I think I would have completely lost it, right there in the bid-matching room, as soon as I heard the last name "Schmuck" ... !
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12-28-2010, 02:41 AM
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Just a sweet sad note: Paula was an SDT from the University of Texas, Austin, I believe. When she read on line that my daughter was going through recruitment at a university where there was an SDT chapter she wrote to me. Yes, she knew that I was Jewish. She knew that AEPhi no longer existed at my school. She very much hoped that my daughter would consider SDT and wrote her a glowing rec.
We had written before because on another tie that we had: we both were cancer survivors.
My daughter didn't join SDT, as some of you know. But Paula was ever gracious. We wrote to each other a few times a month...just to check in. I wrote her a holiday note in December. And, when I didn't receive an answer...well, I knew something was wrong.
Paula died in early December of ovarian cancer. So, to you who knew her here, with her wit, know that she was funny in real life. And to all of you who raise money for cancer research, be it through St. Jude's, Susan Komen...know the work that you are doing is importent. And yes, we thank you.
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Just a sweet sad note: Paula was an SDT from the University of Texas, Austin, I believe. When she read on line that my daughter was going through recruitment at a university where there was an SDT chapter she wrote to me. Yes, she knew that I was Jewish. She knew that AEPhi no longer existed at my school. She very much hoped that my daughter would consider SDT and wrote her a glowing rec.
We had written before because on another tie that we had: we both were cancer survivors.
My daughter didn't join SDT, as some of you know. But Paula was ever gracious. We wrote to each other a few times a month...just to check in. I wrote her a holiday note in December. And, when I didn't receive an answer...well, I knew something was wrong.
Paula died in early December of ovarian cancer. So, to you who knew her here, with her wit, know that she was funny in real life. And to all of you who raise money for cancer research, be it through St. Jude's, Susan Komen...know the work that you are doing is importent. And yes, we thank you.
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So sorry to hear of Paula's passing. Thank you for letting us know.
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i had noticed that paula had not been on the boards for a while. i always enjoyed her insight and her advice. i will miss her. may she rest in peace.
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