2010 Midterm Elections Thread - Page 4

IrishLake · #46 11-03-2010, 08:22 AM

Just thought I would chime in that this conservative environmental scientist, who has lived on UC, is happy and hopeful with Ohio election results. I'm not a huge fan of Kasich or Jean Schmidt (both won), so I wrote in my brother for Governor and Senate. I like Boehner. I thank the FSM Pelosi will be out.

FWIW, I like seeing both parties represented in Congress and in the Executive office. Idealist, yes, but it forces all sides to negotiate and compromise if they want to get anything done.

agzg · #47 11-03-2010, 08:37 AM

Seriously, guys, who will think of Illinois?!?!? The governor's race is 46.5% Quinn and 46.2% Brady! WE HAVE NO GOVERNOR FOR 2011!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WOE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Drolefille · #48 11-03-2010, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by agzg

Seriously, guys, who will think of Illinois?!?!? The governor's race is 46.5% Quinn and 46.2% Brady! WE HAVE NO GOVERNOR FOR 2011!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WOE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is ok, it means we don't have to reserve a new prison cell yet >.>

Drolefille · #49 11-03-2010, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

No, I'm ascribing a motive to something the unions have done and expressly do intentionally.(such as in South Africa, where many of their motives were expressed specifically to keep lower income blacks out of the workplace)

Logical fallacy.

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But the person who would argue as such has deficient reading abilities. The Constitution isn't a terribly difficult read.

Logical fallacy.

MysticCat · #50 11-03-2010, 09:13 AM

I voted early -- took 10 minutes.

Meanwhile, the GOP will control the North Carolina Senate for the first time since 1868 (when they joined with the Populists to control that chamber). It will be the second time since Reconstruction that Republicans will control the North Carolina House of Representatives. The first was in 1994, with the "Republican Revolution," but the Democrats won it back in 1996.

Drolefille · #51 11-03-2010, 09:30 AM

oh dear god fix the markup. And Michigan.gov is ran by the government in office. I guarantee you Blagojevich's tenure talked a lot about the amazing things he did.

Didn't mention all the screw ups. Or the lying, or the selling of the senate seat, or the threatening of children's hospitals for campaign donations. Whether the information stays up there during the next administration or not has a lot to do with the local politics. But it's not an opinion site.

Funny how that works.

DeltaBetaBaby · #52 11-03-2010, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by agzg

Seriously, guys, who will think of Illinois?!?!? The governor's race is 46.5% Quinn and 46.2% Brady! WE HAVE NO GOVERNOR FOR 2011!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WOE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The saddest thing about Illinois is that the Greens lost major-party status, which they've held since Whitney got double-freaking-digits in the last gubernatorial election.

Drolefille · #53 11-03-2010, 10:15 AM

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The saddest thing about Illinois is that the Greens lost major-party status, which they've held since Whitney got double-freaking-digits in the last gubernatorial election.

I want a multi-party system so bad :-/

DeltaBetaBaby · #54 11-03-2010, 10:18 AM

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I want a multi-party system so bad :-/

One of the problems, I think, is that people hear "green" and think "environment", when really, at least in Illinois, "green" means "progressive on all types of issues".

MysticCat · #55 11-03-2010, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

One of the problems, I think, is that people hear "green" and think "environment", when really, at least in Illinois, "green" means "progressive on all types of issues".

To be honest, lots of people hear "Greens" and think "looney."

AGDee · #56 11-03-2010, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat

To be honest, lots of people hear "Greens" and think "looney."

Yep

Drolefille · #57 11-03-2010, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

One of the problems, I think, is that people hear "green" and think "environment", when really, at least in Illinois, "green" means "progressive on all types of issues".

No, the problem is that adding a party requires a ridiculous number of loopholes. I voted Whitney last time around with getting Greens on the ballot as part of my reasoning. People didn't not vote for him because they thought loony or environment (although the typo in Chicago probably didn't help) but because he was neither D nor R.

AOII Angel · #58 11-03-2010, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by IrishLake

Just thought I would chime in that this conservative environmental scientist, who has lived on UC, is happy and hopeful with Ohio election results. I'm not a huge fan of Kasich or Jean Schmidt (both won), so I wrote in my brother for Governor and Senate. I like Boehner. I thank the FSM Pelosi will be out.

FWIW, I like seeing both parties represented in Congress and in the Executive office. Idealist, yes, but it forces all sides to negotiate and compromise if they want to get anything done.

You sound like my husband. He thinks Clinton got the most done when he didn't have the Congress behind him.

As for EW, who cares what happens with unions in South Africa, that's like comparing apples and bananas. If you want to criticize the unions, use examples from the good old USA. We have plenty of unions here...I'm sure you can find examples if you try hard enough. By the way, for all the bad you can find about unions, they have done a lot of good for workers including improving the safety of workplaces, bringing wages to liveable standards and provided a voice for workers in negotiations when their employers have all the power. You know that employees do have grievances that are valid, right? With that, I will conceded that there are abuses, and that unions don't work for everyone.

Drolefille · #59 11-03-2010, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel

You sound like my husband. He thinks Clinton got the most done when he didn't have the Congress behind him.

As for EW, who cares what happens with unions in South Africa, that's like comparing apples and bananas. If you want to criticize the unions, use examples from the good old USA. We have plenty of unions here...I'm sure you can find examples if you try hard enough. By the way, for all the bad you can find about unions, they have done a lot of good for workers including improving the safety of workplaces, bringing wages to liveable standards and provided a voice for workers in negotiations when their employers have all the power. You know that employees do have grievances that are valid, right? With that, I will conceded that there are abuses, and that unions don't work for everyone.

He wants to abolish the minimum wage and thinks that prohibiting workers from being abused is a violation of the workers' rights. I doubt you're going to make much inroads.

Personally I say bring back the real filibuster. No more of this just refusing to vote on it thing, make them stand up and keep talking. Stop being scared the filibuster and push things through.

DaemonSeid · #60 11-03-2010, 10:37 AM

so, in Maryland, 2 counties shot down bills that allowed for ambulances to charge insurances for services. This may also make ambo companies lay off workers.

Also Anne Arundel County has voted for a bill that will allow for slots gambling...but there is still the concern about it being near a very busy shopping area.