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08-26-2010, 08:25 AM
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'Are You Muslim?' Hate Crime
'Are You Muslim?' Question Leads to Cabbie Stabbing, Hate Crime Charge
Driver Answered Yes, Passenger Pulled Knife, Says NYPD
A New York City cab driver was attacked Tuesday evening just after 6 p.m. by a passenger who asked him if he was Muslim, says the NYPD. A spokesman for a New York City cabbie group blamed the attack on the proposed construction of an Islamic center near Ground Zero, the site of the 9/11 World Trade Center terrorist attack, but police said they were not aware of any link.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/muslim...ry?id=11480081
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As many of you know, hate crimes are a form of informal social control that are used when the perpetrators feel that the laws and policies of society are failing them and "those people" are becoming more influential.
I hope he is convicted of attempted murder and punished to the fullest extent of the law. He's a waste of oxygen. Regardless of how you feel about the Islamic center being built, we have hate crime legislation for a very good reason.
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08-26-2010, 08:31 AM
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You gotta have someone to hate, and the easiest way is to just pick whichever group is hot on Faux News today. The good news is gays and Mexicans can maybe take a breather for a minute. Or are haters good multi-taskers?
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08-26-2010, 08:54 AM
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I won't get on my speech but suffice it to say that these types of hate crimes tend to be about more than just looking for someone to hate and finding the new hot topic. The 21 yo college student who perpetrated this crime had spent time in Afghanistan and perhaps used the Islamic center debate as a breaking point.
And I still don't understand why people have given Fox News a nickname. Surely people don't think Fox News is doing something that CNN and MSNBC are not.
More details: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...,5698658.story
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/08/25/...ex.html?hpt=T2
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08-26-2010, 09:11 AM
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Last I heard the "alleged" slasher was in the psych ward for evaluation. That could affect how he'll be prosecuted moving forward.
And, Fox is worse about blurring the line between "news" and "opinion." It's a level of brazenness.
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08-26-2010, 09:35 AM
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I'm not sure - I find MSNBC to be fairly slanted as well (the other way, obviously).
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08-26-2010, 09:41 AM
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I'm not sure - I find MSNBC to be fairly slanted as well (the other way, obviously).
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They're all slanted...it's just that Fox is slanted opposite of every other one, so it's an easy target. I don't believe half of what I hear on mainstream media, regardless of the source.
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08-26-2010, 09:47 AM
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I'm not sure - I find MSNBC to be fairly slanted as well (the other way, obviously).
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I agree, for me it's about the blurring though. I've never had a hard time separating the news side and the opinion side on MSNBC.
And I do really like Shep Smith on Fox, I just feel like he's the lone voice of sanity.
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08-26-2010, 09:55 AM
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They're all slanted...it's just that Fox is slanted opposite of every other one, so it's an easy target. I don't believe half of what I hear on mainstream media, regardless of the source.
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Exactly.
Back to the hate crime story. We shall see whether this man is able to lean on his mental state or something to escape the punishment that he deserves.
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08-26-2010, 09:56 AM
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You gotta have someone to hate, and the easiest way is to just pick whichever group is hot on Faux News today. The good news is gays and Mexicans can maybe take a breather for a minute. Or are haters good multi-taskers?
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08-26-2010, 10:47 AM
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"Well you see, hateration isn't just a casual thang, it's a sicence. We hate on a diverse array of mark-ass marks, trick-ass marks, punk bitches, skig-skag skanks and scallywags, ho's, heifers, heehaws, and hoolihoos."
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08-26-2010, 10:53 AM
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Hate Crime Laws are bullshit.
The penalties for a crime should be the same regardless of motivation.
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08-26-2010, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Drolefille
And, Fox is worse about blurring the line between "news" and "opinion." It's a level of brazenness.
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Originally Posted by agzg
I'm not sure - I find MSNBC to be fairly slanted as well (the other way, obviously).
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They're all slanted...it's just that Fox is slanted opposite of every other one, so it's an easy target.
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I agree, for me it's about the blurring though. I've never had a hard time separating the news side and the opinion side on MSNBC.
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This made me laugh out loud. Classic liberal double standard. Well, I'm on the conservative side and I've never had a hard time separating the news side and the opinion side on Fox News. Shall we call it a draw and all you liberals stop throwing out your "Faux News" slurs?
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Hate Crime Laws are bullshit.
The penalties for a crime should be the same regardless of motivation.
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Totally agree with this!!!
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08-26-2010, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by HDL66
This made me laugh out loud. Classic liberal double standard. Well, I'm on the conservative side and I've never had a hard time separating the news side and the opinion side on Fox News. Shall we call it a draw and all you liberals stop throwing out your "Faux News" slurs?
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Wow, "all you liberals?" Seriously? Comments on obviously slanted left and right news sources warrant that? Asking others not to throw out slurs while being insulting?
Well, if it's tit for tat: STFU and DIAF.
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08-26-2010, 01:45 PM
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Hate Crime Laws are bullshit.
The penalties for a crime should be the same regardless of motivation.
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Totally agree with this!!!
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08-26-2010, 02:00 PM
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This made me laugh out loud. Classic liberal double standard.
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I guess I could say "classic conservative comeback," but that doesn't add anymore to the conversation than "clasic liberal double standard." It's so much easier to dismiss the opinions of others when you can just shrug them off as "classic liberal" or "classic conservative" jerks of the knee.
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The penalties for a crime should be the same regardless of motivation.
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The law has long considered it permissible and appropriate to aggravate the penalty or seriousness of a crime based the offender's intent/motivation: assault with intent to kill, assault with a deadly weapon with intent to kill, crimes committed for pecuniary gain, crimes committed for the purpose of impeding law enforcement . . . .
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