Perps: Why do it? Why Become One?

[skeeliteful]

HappyDays is right...we don't own the alphabet and ANYONE can walk into a store and purchase nalia. The thought that someone would be out of their d@m$ mind to do that makes me uncomfortable. And I was always told to pass down 'nalia that I no longer wanted versus giving it to salvation army. I've never met a perp, but Lord if I ever do bless that child.

And at times it can go deeper than just "saying" you are a Soror and wearing 'nalia. With pin's and copies of the constitution and bylaws on the auction block on Ebay...greek information is just too accessible. NOT TO MENTION...soror's and other greeks telling too much info to the wrong people.

Soror HappyDays91, I pm'd you

[techie_girl_44]

Originally posted by RedefinedDiva

1. Does this "member" ever talk about going to do community service? We all know that (most) BGLOs are dedicated to service. If this person never talks about it, be skeptical. If they claim to do it, ask them to take you along next time to help out. If they are a real "member", they should have no problem with letting you come along.

2. Does the "member" only talk about menial things in the organization, like party walking, stepping, parties, etc? Orgs. have serious issues to discuss, so why waste time with the small stuff?

3. Does the "member" ALWAYS talk about things that they did when they were "on-line"? If so, BE SKEPTICAL. There is no such thing as being "on-line". Hazing was eliminated in 1990. Besides that, whatever happened to that person during MIP is STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL. Members usually DO NOT discuss these issues with non-members. (Memberfriends, corret me if I am wrong) I have close friends and family that are members of various orgs. and they still refuse to discuss MIP with me.

4. Does this "member" have a card? Ask them to show it to you. Not that you have to be abrasive about it, but explain that you have been misled by perps in the past. IMO, a member would be happy to flash that card in your face. (At least, I know I would!)

5. Does this "member" have means to help you out? I mean, the wonderful memberfriends in this forum and others are willing to help us and they don't know us from Eve. If this "member" lives in your area and has no means to hook you up with at least one contact, RED ALERT!

5. Does this "member" know history? Come on. We are giving some perps too much credit. Even with all the infromation that is available through websites, forums such as this, and other resources, some perps don't even take the time to learn it all. Ask them questions that all members should know. Ask them questions that even a four-year-old girl that lives in a cave in Bosnia should know about the org. If they don't know, you have my permission to haul off and WHIP HER A**!!

There are other ways that I have thought of, but I don't want to hog the conversation more than I already have. Just use good judgement. **Memberfriends, let me know what you think!**

RedefinedDiva I don't totally agree with some of the points you made so I will break down my opinions about the subject on a point by point basis:

1 & 2. From what I gather from various posts on this board and other's, there are members of organizations who fit these qualities. I don't want to cross any boundaries but I believe they call those members "t-shirt wearers."

3. There are people who talk in depth about their "process". I have had a couple member's of different orgs tell me all about the things they had to do (I won't go into detail here... even if they don't practice discretion, I do) because they knew I was interested in joining a sorority.

4. This one makes sense but then a resourceful perp may just make up one that looks like the card real members get and get it printed at Kinko's. Also, I know that some members wouldn't take kindly to a non-greek asking to see their membership card.

5. Their are some members of organization's who will not help you out if you were their blood sister (slight exaggeration here). I have come across members like this myself.

6. Just like you and I know basic history about the organizations we are interested in, a perp can get the same knowledge from the same places we get our knowledge. There are some things that only members would know that can distinguish a perp that has done their research from a real member.

Thats just my opinion though, feel free to disagree.

[Happydaysf91]

Personal Suggestion to interested parties....

You shouldn't try to 'bust out' a person who is not an XYZ, KWM or etc...... (that's just my personal opinion). 'Cause lo and behold if you are wrong....you are definitely in for a tongue lashing.... Just because she won't answer you and does not 'fit' into your typically mold of XYZ (i.e., the 6 questions written above), doesn't mean that she's not one. Maybe she is into' strolling; maybe community service is not at the 'top' of her priority list; maybe she doesn't have her card on her; maybe she's not the 'helping out' type, etc....... However, those things doesn't mean she's NOT an XYZ.

Furthermore, I don't think I would be game for showing anyone my financial card who is not a Soror...maybe its me. But you would probably get straight cursed out for that one! Same with a history question from someone I don't know off the street....well, I guess it depends on the question....

Just my .08 cent.

[AKA_Monet]

Firstly, I agree with what all my lovely Sorors stated, always--first and foremost... It has something to do about a sisterly vow I made when I entered into AKA-dom as I lift up my light to an eternal flame. And even when the "Wall" ceremony is done for me, I know I have lived my days...

NOW, ONLY MY SORORS WOULD COMPREHEND THE MEANING OF MY STATEMENTS!!!

A perpatrator would know very little about that... EVEN if that perp dropped line, failed MIP or neglected the chartering process!!!

Sorors, just always remember what is ritualistically important to us... Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. was founded on principles that go beyond what is printed, everywhere. There are WAYS to detect falsehoods without skrait up challenging or password decoding... Those ways go to KNOWING YOUR DOCUMENTS and understanding the full meaning of ALL our Rituals--It takes having several degrees when we try to reach an Epiphany...



For Serioussss interests only:

Your trust should start AFTER RUSH if you are an undergraduate... Your self-interested studying should have started long before...

Your faith should be renewed when an official letter is received INVITING you to join, especially if you have graduated. Your research should be much like as if God has sent an from Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. Angel to become a guardian in your life, as if it happened out of nowhere... And you are sheerly blessed...

Because really, ALL my Graduate Sorors practice some forms of faith and they are known to request that you to come and visit at their churches, synagogues, temples and mosques--if not for worship--definitely to any huge functions--like a fish fry...

And if you ain't meeting groups of us then, outside of stepping and partywalking, then you should use your discretion and be safe.

Moreover, how are you trying to do this endeavor on your OWN??? I would be NETWORKING if it were me... Find out who a fellow sisterfriend is, y'all should be going to ONE of the Grad Chapter FUNCTIONS!!! If not MLK parade, where you'd see all of us, then make it another programmatic function outside of church... Even if it costs $50+ for a tix...

Meeting my Sorors at a stepshow has become rather infantile, don't you think?

Remember when I was a child, I spake as a child and I did childish things... But when I became a (wo)man, I put childish things away...

I like to believe that my Sorority is far from being labeled as childish when dealing and outwitting simple-minded fraudulent people... Oh well...

[RedefinedDiva]

I'm back again. I just wanted to say that I didn't mean to offend any member or suggest that sisterfriends should bust anyone out. Hopefully, none of us are that bold.... It's just that chances of encountering a perp is unlikely, but stranger things have happened. You know, to ME, finding out who's a perp is like trying to figure out who is a terrorist. You remember post 9-11, everyone had a profile figured out for what a terrorist would be like and how you can distinguish them from the general population. We all wish that it could be easy to pinpoint a perp. SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, I let my imagination get the best of me with my list. However, I have personally known perps (of other orgs.) and some of the questions fit typical bases that they could not cover (and for those reasons some of them still have hair patches that have not grown back.... )
Again, my list was not an exact science, which is why I asked for feedback. We never stop learning and perps are people that we may never figure out.

THANKS FOR THE POSITIVE FEEDBACK!!

P.S. HC the Charlotte Hornets are now the NEW ORLEANS HORNETS?!! Gotta get my season tickets!

[spelgrad00]

Oh my goodness, AKA plates, membership cards made at kinko's, that is crazy!!! I went to a small school and if anyone tried to perp they could pretty much forget about every really trying to get into any organization. They could pretty much forget about anyone even looking at them as a sane individual. I am not a member but I can't front, there would be times in college when my friends and I would be in the house posing in the mirror throwing up the sign of the respective organization of our interest. I'm not ashamed to say that because those are just immature things that you grow out of as you mature. But never in a million years have I ever heard of anyone perping as hard as some of the previously mentioned individuals. That is a fool!!!

[Dionysus]

What do you all do when you all catch a perp?

[HoneyBee1922]

Hi all, hope you don't mind in me dropping in but have I got a tale for you!
Here goes,
Way before I joined my org. I attended various programs put on by the chapter at my school. I met this one girl there, we'll call her "Crazy" <<forshadowing>> and we really hit it off. Next thing you knew I we were attending all the events together and even "quizzing" each other on information (in case we were asked a question by one of the members-- I know you all remember those days ) So anyway, this girl and I decided to move in together on campus the following spring because my roommate was moving out.
That spring the org. had a line- I was on it and she wasn't. "Drama in the House of HoneyBee"- Right? Wrong. She seemed not to be phased in the least bit, and went on and on about how "When her time is right..." I thought all was well until one of the members came over to my room to visit. She was there for a little while then we decided to go get something to eat; I asked her to grab my jacket out of my closet, and you won't believe what happened!
She went to "Crazy's" closet by mistake, and what was in it but a SHRINE to Sigma Gamma Rho!! This girl had every piece of 'nalia ever created in this closet! She even had a crossing jacket- with her name on it and a Captain's wheel. So not only was she sick, she obciously had delusions of grandeur. She created this whole senario in her crazy head and made herself captain. Apparently, she had been perping for over a year, and she got all the stuff from friends and family in her hometown when she went home over a school break.
The moral of the story? Even seemingly "sane" people can perp- so be aware.

[AKA2D '91]

Originally posted by Dionysus
What do you all do when you all catch a perp?

what else? PRAY for them.

[loviest95]

Well here are my two perp stories... When I was being made-- there was a rumor of a line taking place at a near by university. When my line crossed we were anticipating meeting these young ladies.. well it never happened. Then one day about a year later there was an AKA probate..at said univeristy.
There were some girls out there steppin etc.
That university DID NOT have a line.. they just took it upon themselves to come out..
Apparently some of our sorors (that had been discipled) "pledged them and took them over"

This is a mess that has continued to this day.. more and more of these crazies come out each year....

Story #2-- I met a girl that claimed to have pleded at another university here in TX. Fine we bcame associates having lunch together etc. She told me stories about her "process" and her line sisters and how much she missed them.

One day I was having lunch with my LS and she walked in. I tried to get "Prep's" attention.. She ignored me and kept going. She did not even stay to eat. Well my LS was surprised that I knew her and asked where we met. After explaining everything my LS went off-- that girl went to that other university too-- and she said the girl had 'perped' there too. The girl transfers from school to school doing the same thing.

Here is the killer...I saw "perp" about three weeks ago at the mall she said HI Soror. I ignored her-- i was trying to get my 3 month olds ears pierced and did not want to get into it with her.

Now that is some HOT MESS!!!!!!

[AKA_Monet]

Originally posted by loviest95
I saw "perp" about three weeks ago at the mall she said HI Soror. I ignored her-- i was trying to get my 3 month olds ears pierced and did not want to get into it with her.

Awwww, Soror maybe some grad chapter just took her over and the chapter wasn't told the whole story... You know how that rolls...

Besides, isn't public acknowledgement rather non-discrete, especially when there is not an outward Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. function, such as Regionals, Clusters and Boule?

Unfortunately, some of us will have to "deal" with that mess... Oh well...

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Honeybee-

What did you all do when you found out this "Crazy" chick's obsession?

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Dionysus-

Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. Corporate Offices and International Board of Directors will sue these people for impersonation, slander and fraud... They will NEVER join ANY NPHC Sorority affiliate...

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Incidentally,

I heard about a "Fatal Attraction" sisterfriend that called everybody to say the chapter she wanted to join was hazing. Then the RD, Investigation teams and local police investigated this young woman's claim and found out she "cried wolf"... Needless to say, she will NEVER be an AKA...

DOCUMENT, DOCUMENT, DOCUMENT!!!

[chrini]

I remember after a big line crossed of XYZ sorority. There was a note posted on campus in a central area where everyone hungout. To sum it all up it stated, If you were dissapointed because you did not make XYZ's line because of grades, popularity or whatever. Your dream could still come true. There was a pager number for you to call. Suposedly some of the disciplined members took retaliation and made a line regardless if the person attended that college or not and basic requirements met or not. A few weeks past . So one weekend when hardly no one was on campus Those who called the pager number and went through whatever "Came OUT" on the yard in front of XYZ's "Spot" reciting history and taking pictures. Just so happened some of the legit members of the big line got word of what was going to happened and showed up. Talk about fussing yelling and shoving these newly "Regades" from their spots. What a big mess. Although they are not legit but Renegades claim they can attend National and Regional conventions with active members present. I say it is not worth it, to go through all of the hassle you may as well be legal and enjoy all benefits. If it seems too good too be true it probably is.

[loviest95]

chrini, sounds like the situation I was I was speaking of -- HOT MESS

[mccoyred]

No matter how many Ghost or Renegade members are made, if National HQ doesn't have you on the roll, you ain't legit!

Originally posted by chrini
I remember after a big line crossed of XYZ sorority. There was a note posted on campus in a central area where everyone hungout. To sum it all up it stated, If you were dissapointed because you did not make XYZ's line because of grades, popularity or whatever. Your dream could still come true. There was a pager number for you to call. Suposedly some of the disciplined members took retaliation and made a line regardless if the person attended that college or not and basic requirements met or not. A few weeks past . So one weekend when hardly no one was on campus Those who called the pager number and went through whatever "Came OUT" on the yard in front of XYZ's "Spot" reciting history and taking pictures. Just so happened some of the legit members of the big line got word of what was going to happened and showed up. Talk about fussing yelling and shoving these newly "Regades" from their spots. What a big mess. Although they are not legit but Renegades claim they can attend National and Regional conventions with active members present. I say it is not worth it, to go through all of the hassle you may as well be legal and enjoy all benefits. If it seems too good too be true it probably is.

[Happydaysf91]

Better yet...I wish Sorors would stop just 'so-call' busting them out....Turn these indviduals into National HQ..... Also, turn in the name of the chapter where the person was supposedly 'made' and the so-called members (NOT Sorors) involved! We need to get rid of these folk as well....

I tell you..... this makes me sooooo angry...how can people think they are ABOVE the organization and go out and do such..... Just goes to show you...some of these people should have never been made (yeah...I said it )!

To all interest....if it smells fishy and there's no formal program sanctioned by our National body...you should stay away or be prepared to be barred from membership altogether if you are ever found out about!!!!! And trust...more SORORS are turning in these folk these days....its a lot of people out there who will never be a member of my elite organization or any of the D9 for that matter!