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Old 01-15-2010, 03:45 PM
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I guess since it takes one to know one we should just listen to the Republicans then and trust that Reid is a racist....right?
Your use of sophistry is telling. Sounds to me your like minded political hacks are the ones making all these inflamatory statements. Clean up your own house before you say someone elses is dirty.
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Old 01-15-2010, 04:08 PM
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You use of sophistry is telling. Sounds to me your like minded political hacks are the ones making all these inflamatory statements. Clean up your own house before you say someone elses is dirty.
Nah...just think it's pretty funny how revisionist your ilk tries to be.

Not to mention, these are the same kind of sweeping generalizations you are making. Lott and Reid's comments are not in the same ballpark...hell, they're not in the same universe when it comes to inappropriateness.
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Old 01-15-2010, 05:51 PM
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Lott and Reid's comments are not in the same ballpark...hell, they're not in the same universe when it comes to inappropriateness.
Yeah, you're right - one is definitely a more pernicious and dangerous form of continuing racial prejudice, one that subjugates entire groups via labels and uses culture as a weapon to wield in retaining authority and pushing abasement.

Just not the one you think.
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Old 01-15-2010, 06:27 PM
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That's my point though, in the case of the census bureau, they researched what words to use, checked with their advisory counsel, and based on the respondents from the last census used the word Negro in order to reach out to the people who identified themselves that way. Yet, by trying to accomodate those people's self identifications, they stepped in it and insulted others.
The academically inclined people who work for the Census Bureau knew better than to include "Negro" just because a relative (population) minority of people choose (for whatever reasons) to identify themselves that way. In fact, I don't trust that they truly researched that and were unresourceful enough to not know that they have to go beyond what some people SAY to find the foundation of what they really MEAN.

I need people and agencies to wear their "smart hats" more often. Some will have to find it and dust it off. But, wear it.
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Old 01-15-2010, 06:52 PM
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I wish people would A) be let in on what is appropriate and what is not, so to not offend, and B) that those offended would be less sensitive and over reactive to those who intended no slight. Sensitivity and just plain sense can go both ways.
But getting to be the person/group who determines what's offensive and "punish" others for it involves power, and I think people enjoy power.

It's not that I don't think what you're asking for is desirable; I do. And I actually think that in most functional groups or institutions, it's exactly what happens.

But when it comes to big political and social moments, there's far too much currency in passing judgment and controlling language.
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Old 01-15-2010, 07:03 PM
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Hear, Hear!! Dr. Phil

Wonderfully stated.

When all is said and done both Reid and Lott should have known better then to say what they did. I don't believe what either said should result or have resulted in their having to step down from their position. However, the fact that Lott was forced to by the Dems and Reid is given a pass by essentially the same people is what rankles me. Blatant hypocrisy!
But what they said was fundamentally different. Lott suggested that a notable figure who opposed integration was correct to do so, and Reid seems to have used the word "Negro" while explaining why he thought white voters would find Obama appealing and nonthreatening.

As frequent readers of this forum might have noticed, I frequently come unglued about the issue of media double standards for Republicans, and even I'm not on your team here.

Reid's comments are probably worth talking about in their own right and do reveal something about his thinking, but not the same thing that Lott's did.
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Old 01-15-2010, 07:06 PM
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We are having a meeting next week...memos will go out to the proper officials from the Black representatives as soon as we confirm our vote on what we want to be called this century

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Old 01-15-2010, 07:28 PM
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Old 01-16-2010, 02:58 PM
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More hipocracy.

Harry Reid has been crying raci$m for months. Does your takes one to know one analogy apply to Reid when he cries raci$m? Should we all just trust Reid?
Maybe so, but is Steele going to step down too? And BTW, if you couldn't see that my post was tongue and cheek, you are as dumb as your posts sound.
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Old 01-18-2010, 04:50 PM
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Maybe she brought up the point about Trent Lott was BECAUSE that was among the 1st comparisons that came up in the news media.

She may have been the 1st to bring it up on GC BUT it was all over the news outlets the last few days.


YOU need to go back and read...better yet go do some googling and see what you find.

BTW Max...how ya' boy enjoying retirement???
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Old 01-18-2010, 05:25 PM
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You're saying Trent Lott was an unknown politician?

wow.

Do YOU think NEGRO is appropriate?
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Old 01-18-2010, 05:28 PM
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everyone on this site has at some point in time said something that can be interpreted or misinterpreted as offensive to someone of another race behind closed doors.
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Old 01-18-2010, 05:55 PM
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I think you already know my answer.

BUT since you obviously want to play 'slow'...no Negro is not appropriate.

You're not opening any can of worms...you just want to feel self important because you raised such a 'provacative' question to see if the rest of us will debate it.

Dude...get over yourself.

Let's hear your answer to your own question.
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Old 01-18-2010, 05:57 PM
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anyone up for some Martin Luther Coon hi jinx?

*snicker*
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Old 01-18-2010, 07:06 PM
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everyone on this site has at some point in time said something that can be interpreted or misinterpreted as offensive to someone of another race behind closed doors.
Are you saying "you people" on this site?
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