WSU Sigma Nu Charter Revoked (Hazing)

[VandalSquirrel]

Originally Posted by SigKapCoug

Sigma Chi has not had a chapter house since I've been on campus (fall 2005). If they did, I assume they sold it when they left campus (I think the group now is a re-colonization, but I could be wrong).

TKE is also unhoused - when they were shut down Phi Kappa Sigma/Skullhouse moved in.

SAE is unhoused as well, but only until December when renovations are complete.

The rest of the WSU fraternities and the NPC sororities (+ Ceres) are housed.

I thought I saw a banner on a house with Sigma Chi's name and Cross on California on the same block as APhi. It wasn't a very big house, but I walked by it on the way to my house.

[SigKapCoug]

Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel

I thought I saw a banner on a house with Sigma Chi's name and Cross on California on the same block as APhi. It wasn't a very big house, but I walked by it on the way to my house.

Oh, maybe! Next time I'm over on California I'll look. I just checked the WSU website and it says "Sigma Chi: Not living in chapter house during reconstruction." So it appears you're right.

It'd be nice to have all the chapters housed again. It seems like a big disadvantage to not have a house when everyone else does.

[dznat187]

Originally Posted by OTW

I agree.

In addition, I'd like to think this should apply to all GLOs as well.

Whatever goes on in a fraternity/sorority is the business of its members and its members only. Unless it's public knowledge, it's nobody else's business except that of the GLO.

I wish more GCers knew how to respect that.

While I agree. I think it is also important to use situations as educational oportunities. There is no need for groups to repeat the bad decisions and mistakes of others. As a greek community we should be willing to share our mistakes and successes to help improve the greek community as a whole. While it is great for one chapter or group to be great. What good would it be if all the other orgs are struggling or getting closed? Just a thought.

Also, I just began working at WSU and from talking with Greek life staff, there was an investigation (not just pics) and there were previous issues with the chapter. It is very sad though, sa their house is beautiful and they were excelling academically. Again, maybe other chapters can learn from this and when they come back in the future they will be better off if they learn from this experience.

[dznat187]

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

ETA: The fraternities at WSU have had a bad time in recent years. Sooner or later all the fraternities might be gone, leaving the sororities as the only greeks. I wouldn't be surprised if Sigma Chi national puts pressure on its guys at WSU to add numbers and move into the house if they can, given how strong the chapter is at UW.

There are a number of chapters at WSU that have begun making some good strides and a few other chapters may be following soon. The Greek life office is doing a great job of making changes to help improve the greek community as a whole here at WSU. I would be careful to qualify or quantify a Greek community based on hearsay and without expereince at the university or in the chapter.

Also, the new president who has just taken office is really dedicated to helping out the Greek community at WSU. Unfortunately, no matter how much a university does for its Greeks many will think they are trying to shut it down are out to get it, etc. Granted a few schools are but most want to have a strong, successful greek community. if they didnt want Greeks, they'd be gone already.

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by OTW

I agree.

In addition, I'd like to think this should apply to all GLOs as well.

Whatever goes on in a fraternity/sorority is the business of its members and its members only. Unless it's public knowledge, it's nobody else's business except that of the GLO.

I wish more GCers knew how to respect that.

Part of me wishes to believe and think this. But another part does not feel right about "what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas".

And yes, I know that there is a great deal of gray.

If one is talking about a chapter house and problems within it, all that is going to happen is that matters will get worse. I am judging that from personal observation and experience.

If you are talking about National matters, policy, procedures, protocol's et al, that is a different matter.

And as part of "the gray" we have seen all to often how little Greek problems become very large, very quickly. And rather public.

[Kevin]

In general response to the last few posts, while some matters might rightly be called no one else's business but the organization's, there is also another very important aspect of these sorts of threads. Most college kids believe that these kinds of things (actual consequences for hazing) can never happen to them. These sorts of threads show even when we're talking about elite chapters, the rules still apply.

Maybe there are 2 lessons here:

1) Don't ignore your organization's risk reduction policies; and
2) Don't post things on facebook/myspace/etc. which you wouldn't want your national officers to see.

Actives read this site, chapter advisers (who might not even know what facebook is) read this site, university officials read this site, policy makers read this site. If we can influence any of them, we've done a good thing.

Those of us who have been on GC for 4+ years probably aren't going to learn anything new. There are others who actually do read this site for new ideas that they can bring back to their organizations.

[SigKapCoug]

I heard a few days ago that buying the Sigma Nu house is going to run in the $3 million area.... so I guess we'll see if any of the chapters are interested at that price.

[Kevin]

It'd really be nice if they could just lease it until they're allowed to recolonize.

[jksigmachi]

I realize that a lot of this thread was posted a while ago- In repsonse to Sigma Chi, the fraternity never actually shut down.

In 2004 two things happened:
1) the alumni did some "house cleaning" on some members who were engaging in some inappropriate activities
2) the house was condemned for safety reasons, and torn to the ground.

There was a brief fund raising drive, but when total membership in the chapter dropped to 3 people...well, construction of a new house was put on hold- indefinitely. The chapter never shut down, but growth has been slow (4 years later we have 10 people and two pledges).

Currently, Sigma Chi is located next door to Alpha Phi (in the small white house). The big parking lot in between this house house and pikes' is where the Sigma Chi chapter house used to be. The parking lot is maintained by Sigma Chi.

[banditone]

Update: According to the latest Sigma Nu Delta magazine, the Washington State (Delta Iota) chapter will be coming back on in the Fall of 2009.

Any WSU people around? What happened to their house?

[AlphaDeltaDelta]

Can someone explain to me how a scavenger hunt is hazing? When I was pledging a fraternity at a school up North, one of the most memorable and enjoyable pledge education events was a scavenger hunt, but with my current fraternity we weren't allowed to do anything like that. (Long story why I've pledged 2 fraternities but I promise it's legit)

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by banditone

Update: According to the latest Sigma Nu Delta magazine, the Washington State (Delta Iota) chapter will be coming back on in the Fall of 2009.

Any WSU people around? What happened to their house?

Considering the amount of cash they have in it, the house corporation probably rented it out and will continue to do so until Fall '09 (unless they smartly had enough socked away to make the mortgage payments for a couple of years).

That's just speculation on my part.

[banditone]

http://www.dailyevergreen.com/story/27356

"This house gives students the opportunity to live in a house with no alcohol, no drugs, no premarital sex, things like that".


I think I just threw up a little in my mouth.

[VandalSquirrel]

Originally Posted by banditone

http://www.dailyevergreen.com/story/27356

"This house gives students the opportunity to live in a house with no alcohol, no drugs, no premarital sex, things like that".


I think I just threw up a little in my mouth.

Wow...that just blows my mind. I find it interesting that they list Muslims and Agnostics as potential residents, but not Jews or Hindus. It isn't a house for Christians, but for followers of Jesus...(paraphrased). Taking away the sleeping porch as a porch is sad, they had heated floors, and in the winter that is amazing.

[banditone]

Looks like they are going forward with the re-colonization this coming Fall ('09). Does that mean they are booting out those god people?

http://www.wsusigmanu.com/