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Old 12-06-2008, 12:57 AM
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Also, just because you really want it and you have other alumnae who really want it doesn't mean that this is the right time for the school to add a new sorority. Expansion depends on what the Greek Life Office and school feels is right for the Panhellenic community at this time.

If they don't think expansion is right for them at this point, then you really have no choice but to let it go. No amount of calls, emails, etc. is going to change their feelings. Their feelings COULD change in a few years if the sororities are consistently at total, but this isn't what they want to do now.
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Old 12-07-2008, 03:41 PM
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Obviously you can't re-open a chapter whose campus has closed or gotten rid of Greek Life. But what about chapters that only lasted a few years? Chapters that got the sorority in heaps of trouble? I can't help but wonder if I/HQs intentionally stay away from certain campuses (either "ok, that might have not been the best idea then...maybe now's not a good time to try again" OR "yeah, we're never going back") where they had former chapters, even if that campus has opened up for expansion.
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Also, sororities could have a "bad taste in their mouth" about how they were treated by the Panhellenic community and do not wish to return to a campus because of that reputation. I personally always love to see former chapters re-established if at all possible but sometimes it's not possible.
Yes and yes.

And in both cases, sometimes a change of leadership either at the GLO's national level or at the college can turn the situation completely around.
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Old 12-12-2008, 08:01 PM
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Expansion news

The coordinator for Greek Life got back to me and said they are looking to open for expansion within the year. She didn't say they are open for expansion at the present moment but they are hoping to open by Spring semester! She also told me that there is no guarentee that they will open so I know it may not happen.

As far as whether or not it would be a good idea for my sorority to re-open, personally I think there would be a lot of people with mixed feelings because there was a lot that went down when they closed. But that was so long ago and people have grown up, moved on and changed. This all happened in the early 90's which as much as some of us hate to admit, was a long time ago.

I think a new sorority is what the campus needs. I am not sure Greek life has a positive image on campus, and I think a lot has to do with the fact that unfortunately, the stereotypes have stayed the same throughout the years. There are so many girls who would have made great sorority women who were too intimidated or just misinformed. I personally think a new sorority would make the school a bit more competitive and entice girls to go through recruitment.

So, if someone could clarify but I wasn't quite clear with an earlier response- since my sorority is the only one with a closed chapter, would we have first priority over other NPC's that have never had a chapter there? Or is it fair game for everyone?
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Old 12-12-2008, 08:08 PM
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So, if someone could clarify but I wasn't quite clear with an earlier response- since my sorority is the only one with a closed chapter, would we have first priority over other NPC's that have never had a chapter there? Or is it fair game for everyone?
It is suggested that dormant chapters have priority but that is not always the case.
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So, if someone could clarify but I wasn't quite clear with an earlier response- since my sorority is the only one with a closed chapter, would we have first priority over other NPC's that have never had a chapter there? Or is it fair game for everyone?
Some campuses give them first consideration. Some campuses consider everyone.

While it's quite wonderful that you have these ideas and opinions on what the campus needs, it really doesn't mean anything if your HQ isn't interested in going back to that campus.
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Old 12-12-2008, 08:14 PM
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Thanks so much for the clarification!

I do know that back in the early 80's when the school was open for expansion (the last time it was!) a sorority which closed in the early 70's was re-chartered. They gave that group first priority. I know they have done this with the fraternities as well.

Hopefully this will be the case for us!
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Old 12-13-2008, 10:38 PM
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Freeverse, one more thing to consider is that your graduate school experience might be significantly more demanding and time-consuming than your undergraduate experience. It depends on the program. You might want to talk to some students in the program (if you haven't done so already) in order to get a feel for the time commitment that will be required.

I, personally, would be very leery of taking on a huge outside project at the start of a new grad program.
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Old 12-13-2008, 11:26 PM
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Freeverse, at this point there is not much you can do. Other GCers have outlined the process pretty well.

If Extension might be right for this campus at this time, Panhellenic won't need you to tell them. They'll know. They'll take the steps needed to open for extension.

You can step in if the Panhellenic Association decides to open for extension AND your sorority expresses interest in recolonizing AND the Panhellenic Association chooses your sorority to present. Your sorority will most likely want alumnae interested in supporting a potential colony to be there for the presentation.

The Green Book does suggest considering NPC groups that have had a chapter on the campus previously, but the Panhellenic Association is in no way obligated to choose your sorority.

I was on a Panhellenic-appointed committee to research and present a recommendation for Extension when I was a senior at Maryland. Feel free to PM me if you want.
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Old 12-14-2008, 01:26 AM
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In the event they do open for expansion, I am very much interested in being a supportive/active alumna. I know there's nothing I can do at this point. I am just expressing my excitement.
As far as being in grad school and volunteering, I can do it. I already have a Masters Degree so I know how demanding it is. Honestly, I think my undergraduate work was harder. This will be my second Masters and I will be studying Higher Ed so it kind of goes hand in hand.
Thanks again for everyone's input!
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Old 12-16-2008, 10:57 AM
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So, if someone could clarify but I wasn't quite clear with an earlier response- since my sorority is the only one with a closed chapter, would we have first priority over other NPC's that have never had a chapter there? Or is it fair game for everyone?
I was on an NPC extension call recently and this came up - the campus is to give "consideration" to dormant groups but that is it. This means when they open, they invite 3 groups to campus to present and often, the dormant may get an invite (in the case of Bucknell, there were at least 3 dormants and I'm not sure any of them got invited).

I have seen a couple of cases where, once presentations happened, the dormant group(s) did not get the campus and the group who had no history there did. Previous campus history does not give a group a definite "in".

Extension in the 80s was different than today. Today, larger NPC groups are vying for the same campuses as smaller NPC groups. Larger groups have more resourves and often, it comes down to a financial commitment from a group such as a dedicated chapter consultant to live on/near campus for 1-2 years. Some groups just can't afford to do that.
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Old 12-17-2008, 04:51 PM
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Hi all.

I havent posted very much on the boards but I feel the need to chime in here. This past fall, Adelphi University added Phi Sigma Sigma to it's list of NPC Organizations on campus. The school was against adding another sorority, and myself, along with other deadicated women fought hard to reopen the Epsilon Chapter of Phi Sigma Sigma December 6th, 2008. We werent "open" for expansion either, and remained an interest group for a little over two years, and now our dream became a reality.

I share my story with you to let you know that there is hope. Perhaps there are low numbers in the other organizations because the women are looking for something new or a different perspective on Greek Life. If you can become involved or if you know a woman who is interested at your Alma Mata do not give up hope.

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Old 12-17-2008, 04:53 PM
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Also, I forgot to mention - the whole point of my post. Our Greek Life Advisor sat down with the interest group and asked us which organizations we were interested in. He suggested that we look out dormant chapters which used to be on the campus because of the rich history and support of alumni. This was a very unique case. When we opened, we recieved information from many of the dormant chapters and it was very excited, we ultimatley choose Phi Sigma Sigma and they chose us, and it is a wonderful partnership.
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Old 12-17-2008, 05:43 PM
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myself, along with other dedicated women !
And there's the rub.

You had an interest group of COLLEGIATE women who stuck together. The OP has a group of ALUMNAE women who apparently believe they know what the campus needs better than the students who are already there.

Sorry for the bitchy tone, but this thread has been bugging the crap out of me. I think every alum of a closed chapter wants it to reopen - but if you don't care what the current students want, you're not going to get too far.
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Old 12-17-2008, 09:10 PM
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Speaking as an alumna of a closed chapter, I think the best thing an alumna can do is be an active alumna of her GLO and support her alma mater. Everything else is simply not in her control.
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Old 12-31-2008, 07:30 PM
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My initiating chapter closed after I graduated, so I understand where you're coming from! You will definitely want to check with your inter/national headquarters about this. There is probably a specific staff member or volunteer who is in charge of extension but anyone on staff should be able to direct you to the correct person to talk with.

I know that my organization does not want alumnae to individually contact the college Panhellenic because it could reflect negatively on the inter/national organization. If multiple alumnae are contacting the college Panhellenic to ask when their chapter will be re-established, it could give a bad impression of the organization as a whole or it could lead the college Panhellenic to believe that the organization is interested in returning, when in fact that might not be the case.

Regardless of whether your initiating chapter is re-established, I highly suggest that you look into volunteer opportunities in or near the city that you live in now. I have been volunteering with my sorority for the past five years and have worked with four different chapters in my area. This has definitely helped to fill the void that was created when my initiating chapter closed.

Good luck!!
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