University of Southern California Recruitment

[ellebud]

I agree 100%. There is too much a margin for a pnm to be out of rush completely. And for sororities to have fewer returns. Not a good situation.

[ComradesTrue]

Originally Posted by ladybug12

Dropping from 5 possible invitations down to 2 for preference seems like a big change to me, especially when there are only 10 NPC sororities on the campus.

Am I the only person that thinks this is a bit odd?

I also agree.

On my campus of 10 houses we went from 4 parties for third round to 3 parties for pref.

Not that how we did it is right for everyone, but I had the same initial thought as you. That is too drastic a cut for both the PNMs and the chapters.

[Aphigal]

I am not in general a 3 party pref fan. I think it misleads the women and the chapters. On almost every single campus I have worked with women very rarely match with their 3rd choice. So you havea "weaker" (hate that term) chapter that thinks they are doing swell because of the number of women at pref but in reality the pnm's are for the most part ranking them #3 and not matching with them.

Then on the flip side you have pnm's who think they are getting into XYZ when really they just made the bottom of XYZ's pref invite list and will be on the bottom of their bid list. Release figures has helped all this some though.

Still 3rd party pref. bleech.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by texas*princess

Football fan -- If so many people are QUITTING the process before even getting to the end, I can't say I have any sympathy for them. Like the article author, I have no doubts many of them went in knowing which groups they didn't want or "couldn't fit into"... so when their "top" choices dropped them, they quit.

Amen. If being asked back to parties by women who want to get to know you - even if they aren't the prettiest or most popular group - is her idea of being a "second class citizen" I have zero sympathy for her.

Oh and with 10 chapters on a campus, what Aphigal is saying is right on. I think pref isn't the problem, rather that they're going from 10 chapters to 5. 10 to 7 to 4 to 2 would make more sense. (I read that right didn't I?)

Trojan01 - what do you mean about the 08 spring admit population? Was this a ton of waitlisted people or something?

[ComradesTrue]

Originally Posted by Aphigal

Still 3rd party pref. bleech.

To each her own.

I somewhat see your point for a campus with only a handful of chapters, as the majority of the PNMs will be attending the exact same parties. However, when there are 10 chapters, such as at USC, there are very few people who are going to the same three parties.

You mention that no one goes to their third bid list. However, per reports (I haven't seen this confirmed) multiple chapters at USC did not even make quota, so they made it to the bottom of the second list without filling quota. If they had had another 40-60 names down that list, from a third party, perhaps they could have.

It's fine to just have 2 pref parties if that system works at your university. However, I have not heard of narrowing from 5 to 2 from third round to pref.

Should all of those PNMs who dropped have hung around a bit longer? Probably. But the current set up just lends itself to very drastic cuts after 3rd round.

[kchaptergphib]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Oh and with 10 chapters on a campus, what Aphigal is saying is right on. I think pref isn't the problem, rather that they're going from 10 chapters to 5. 10 to 7 to 4 to 2 would make more sense. (I read that right didn't I?)

If what you're saying is right, and they only have 3 days for 10 chapters- I think that's a big mistake. I know it won't help this year's PNM's who dropped out, but hopefully they'll realize that's something to be changed for next year. But I still wonder how they thought it would be a good idea going from 5 to 2 for pref.

[33girl]

I wasn't right.

http://www.chaptertools.net/site_fil...1216246447.pdf

They go from 10 to 7 to 5 to 2. That makes more sense. At least they have had more time to spend w/ the chapters.

[ladybug12]

I agree that 2 preference parties seem right for a campus with 10 sororities...just that the drop from 5 to 2 may have made a difference this year when compared to last year's stats.

But I also see the point of being able to attend 5 parties for the third day may help keep more women in recruitment and allow additional time to get to know more PNMs.

I just think it is unfortunate for such a prestigous campus to add an NPC chapter and actually see fewer women pledge a sorority compared to the previous year...

[srmom]

The cartoon accompanying this opinion piece is certainly NOT very flattering is it? Wonder if the artist is Greek

Maybe the cartoonist is a member of USAG;0

[ellebud]

USC has spring admits. This means that as, 300 plus or more seniors graduate (and the unfortunate attrition) this opens up space for a second round of freshman. These young women (obviously I am excluding the men in this discussion) would go through formal rush in the fall with a full semester at SC. Some of these women will be sophomores (because they went to a cc full time in the fall), some will be second semester freshmen.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by ellebud

USC has spring admits. This means that as, 300 plus or more seniors graduate (and the unfortunate attrition) this opens up space for a second round of freshman. These young women (obviously I am excluding the men in this discussion) would go through formal rush in the fall with a full semester at SC. Some of these women will be sophomores (because they went to a cc full time in the fall), some will be second semester freshmen.

Jeepers creepers.

With that amount of people it almost sounds like it would be better to have an additional structured rush in the spring to accomodate them. (USC sorority women, don't kill me, ha ha.)

[violetpretty]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Jeepers creepers.

With that amount of people it almost sounds like it would be better to have an additional structured rush in the spring to accomodate them. (USC sorority women, don't kill me, ha ha.)

Or to move formal recruitment to the spring.

[ellebud]

Well, I'll be able to tell you AFTER RUSH in the fall how it all works. My daughter is a spring admit. And she will be a technical freshman in the fall.

[TrojanWoman]

Originally Posted by violetpretty

Or to move formal recruitment to the spring.

Don't say it!

This is the first year that SC had 10 chapters participate in formal recruitment and I think there was bound to be some problems. We used to go from 4 parties to 2 prefs. I think they are still figuring out what the number of parties should be for all of the days. I think we will have to see if there are changes made to next year's schedule. I'm not a fan of 3 pref parties either, but it may be the best case scenario as the Greek culture continues to grow at USC.

Fight on Trojans! Beat the Buckeyes!!!

[Benzgirl]

Originally Posted by TrojanWoman

Fight on Trojans! Beat the Buckeyes!!!

Eh!
I'll be there. I have tickets on the 20 yard line.