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[Soul_Survivor07]

Hello brothers this is an interesting post. But being in a newley recharted chapter I have been called Aye Phi Que by instructors, alumni and other people the knew Alpha Phi Omega back in the day At Norfolk State. I had an instructor that didn't even call my name for roll he just said "Aye Phi Que" But I read somewhere that I cant remember but will search the The whole "Que" thing was created at an HBCU to distiguesh between Omicron and Omega. So Hence Que was created for Omega. But I take it since our chapter was called Aye Phi Que Long before I was Born I think is cool to be called that now. To me it has nothing to do with men or women in the chapter. just my 27 cents. "Apologize for spelling I am at work"

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

The FIRST time APO and Omega Psi Phi were on the same campus.....from my research it appears that was Beta Chapter of APO and Omicron Psi Chapter of Omega, both established in 1927.

DAMN I'm good.

[naraht]

Originally Posted by Soul_Survivor07

Hello brothers this is an interesting post. But being in a newley recharted chapter I have been called Aye Phi Que by instructors, alumni and other people the knew Alpha Phi Omega back in the day At Norfolk State. I had an instructor that didn't even call my name for roll he just said "Aye Phi Que" But I read somewhere that I cant remember but will search the The whole "Que" thing was created at an HBCU to distiguesh between Omicron and Omega. So Hence Que was created for Omega. But I take it since our chapter was called Aye Phi Que Long before I was Born I think is cool to be called that now. To me it has nothing to do with men or women in the chapter. just my 27 cents. "Apologize for spelling I am at work"

While it is certainly up to the chapter as to what you want to be called on campus, in this case, I'm not sure that trying to go by APO or APhiO on campus is worth the stress in relations with the alumni or the instructors. To me, using Que as part of the abbrevation gives a tie to the HBCU GLO experience that helps in terms of recruitment deal with the fact that the 14 (or 20) faces in the manual are Caucasian. (GSS, KKY and TBS also have to deal with this of course)

The people most likely to be confused by Aye Phi Que are probably the active brothers at the other chapters in the section, but they'll figure it out. I've never talked to a staffer who had an issue with chapters using Aye Phi Que who wasn't corrected by a more senior staffer. There *is* no official way to abbreviate the greek letters for our fraternity in English.

(Now using *Viking* is a different kettle of fish)


Still wonder when the term Que for Omega was first used by Omega Psi Phi, for all I know it was originally an insulting term which was adopted later with pride (like "Mormons" to describe latter day saints".)

[PADFSUGirl2K2]

Originally Posted by naraht

While it is certainly up to the chapter as to what you want to be called on campus, in this case, I'm not sure that trying to go by APO or APhiO on campus is worth the stress in relations with the alumni or the instructors. To me, using Que as part of the abbrevation gives a tie to the HBCU GLO experience that helps in terms of recruitment deal with the fact that the 14 (or 20) faces in the manual are Caucasian. (GSS, KKY and TBS also have to deal with this of course)

The people most likely to be confused by Aye Phi Que are probably the active brothers at the other chapters in the section, but they'll figure it out. I've never talked to a staffer who had an issue with chapters using Aye Phi Que who wasn't corrected by a more senior staffer. There *is* no official way to abbreviate the greek letters for our fraternity in English.

(Now using *Viking* is a different kettle of fish)


Still wonder when the term Que for Omega was first used by Omega Psi Phi, for all I know it was originally an insulting term which was adopted later with pride (like "Mormons" to describe latter day saints".)

I may be wrong but I read somewhere that the term "Que" was used because of the similarities of the Omega letter looking like a "Q" thus the Que's calling themselves that. The O was more reserved for Omicron.

[naraht]

Originally Posted by PADFSUGirl2K2

I may be wrong but I read somewhere that the term "Que" was used because of the similarities of the Omega letter looking like a "Q" thus the Que's calling themselves that. The O was more reserved for Omicron.

It isn't really "reserved" as much as sort of obvious because of the identical shape. Alignments between English and Greek letters really depend on whether you are dealing with shape or pronounciation. Using O for Omega is just fine because an O standing by itself in english is pronounced the same was an Omega. The easiest way in english to get a pronounciation alignment for our Greek letters would be Ah F O since the Alpha is a short A...

As for when Omega Psi Phi started using Q, haven't gotten an answer for that...

Randy