The first sorority to demand equal rights

[aopirose]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

I guess NPC organizations weren't involved at the organizational-level beyond that emphasis on the individual woman. Is that correct based on you all's records? If that's what you all are going on the record as claiming, I respect that.

In my materials for AOII, which are not extensive by any means, I cannot say that we were not involved on an organizational-level basis. The suffrage movement was a discussion topic at our 1910 convention, but that's all it says. A bit more is written about one of our founders, Jessie Wallace Hughan. She was a determined political and social activist and even ran for U.S. Senate in 1924. Our first national philanthropy was adopted in 1906 to aid the National Committee on the Abolition of Child Labor.

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

I won't even get into the history behind the women's suffrage movement. Suffice it to say that the women's suffrage movement (and the women's liberation movement) far more impacted white middle class women than it did poor white women and racial and ethnic minority women. So how is that possible if a substantial percentage of college enrolled and college educated women who were also in sororities were not actually in the struggle on a macro level besides going to school? History lesson, anyone?

I will! I think more and more, it's too easy for young women (and heck, old women) to forget how long and how hard women had to fight. March being Women's History Month, this discussion is particularly apropos.

The women's rights movement did cross efforts with the civil rights movment, but as DSTCHAOS mentioned in a later post, how much parity came out of it for caucasian vs. african american women is up for debate. Clearly, African American women face additional discriminations based solely on their skin color.

To the NPC/NPHC debate (LOL at Senusret he's just determined to have a full-on "race war" somewhere on this forum!), I think what you'll find in the history of NPCs are individual members who may have been active in the women's movement (ala my girl H.E. Butterfield), but working on behalf of the movement was not on the agenda of the NPC orgs themselves. Our founders, though, without a doubt, were pioneers on their campuses and did their own thing to promote women in their time and place.

NPHC orgs seem to have a much higher level involvement as a whole with the rights movements, so while I don't think it's necessarily an apples to oranges thing, I do think there are much different national directives about the role the national org should take in these larger national "causes".

Some interesting reads that provide info. on most of the above:
A Short History of the Women's Movement: http://www.legacy98.org/move-hist.html -- about halfway down, under "The Movement Expands", notable activists are named, among them are Ida B. Wells and Mary Church Terrell , the only 2 black women to sign the petition that led to the formation of the NAACP, and just overall kick-a$$ ladies. And here's an article from a 2002 edition of Black Issues in Higher Education entitled Did black folks gain from the women's movement?

[SWTXBelle]

All my NPC history books are packed, so I can't contribute as I would like now.

[TSteven]

Originally Posted by NutBrnHair

Mary Love Collins was born in Loveville, PA in 1882. She attended Conway Hall Preparatory School and Dickinson College where she earned a B.A. in 1902 and an M.A. in 1908. Mrs. Collins graduated from the University of Kentucky Law College in 1915. In 1918 she taught courses at the University of Kentucky and from 1919 - 20 she was an attorney in the solicitor's office of the U.S. Bureau of Internal Revenue.

Mary Love became president of Chi Omega Fraternity in 1910 and served in this capacity until 1952 when she became administrative councilor until her death in 1972. She was buried in Tyrone, PA.

Hot Damn!

[oldu]

Wait a minute! None of you has an exclusive license on the use of "equal rights." It has been used long before the meaning it has to many of you today. These women were fighting for the same rights the male students enjoyed. The examples I cited were among the most absurd for being placed on probation. The facts are that women were barely tolerated by some professors who thought they were wasting space. At many institutions they were not allowed in the student union, couldn't be a cheerleader or play in the band, and were subject to many other ridiculous requirements. Thanks to brave ladies like these, your life on campus was much more fulfilling. I did not indicate that these were the ONLY sorority women fighting a good cause. I thought the story interesting because it was the first widely publicized case -- and the first in which supposedly dainty sorority women stood up for their rights, and accomplished it because of a savvy sorority leader who was a feminist long before the term became popular.

[NutBrnHair]

Originally Posted by oldu

Wait a minute! None of you has an exclusive license on the use of "equal rights." It has been used long before the meaning it has to many of you today. These women were fighting for the same rights the male students enjoyed. The examples I cited were among the most absurd for being placed on probation. The facts are that women were barely tolerated by some professors who thought they were wasting space. At many institutions they were not allowed in the student union, couldn't be a cheerleader or play in the band, and were subject to many other ridiculous requirements. Thanks to brave ladies like these, your life on campus was much more fulfilling. I did not indicate that these were the ONLY sorority women fighting a good cause. I thought the story interesting because it was the first widely publicized case -- and the first in which supposedly dainty sorority women stood up for their rights, and accomplished it because of a savvy sorority leader who was a feminist long before the term became popular.

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[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by oldu

Wait a minute! None of you has an exclusive license on the use of "equal rights." It has been used long before the meaning it has to many of you today. These women were fighting for the same rights the male students enjoyed. The examples I cited were among the most absurd for being placed on probation. The facts are that women were barely tolerated by some professors who thought they were wasting space. At many institutions they were not allowed in the student union, couldn't be a cheerleader or play in the band, and were subject to many other ridiculous requirements. Thanks to brave ladies like these, your life on campus was much more fulfilling. I did not indicate that these were the ONLY sorority women fighting a good cause. I thought the story interesting because it was the first widely publicized case -- and the first in which supposedly dainty sorority women stood up for their rights, and accomplished it because of a savvy sorority leader who was a feminist long before the term became popular.

Define "widely publicized."

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by NutBrnHair

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What are you applauding for? As a historian, I would expect you to be asking him to cite his sources.

[NutBrnHair]

I think too many of you "major in the minors."

Just sit back, read the thread (or not) and enjoy learning something you might not have known before.

Sources? This is a message chat board on the Internet -- not his dissertation. Trust me, if oldu stated anything which I knew to be incorrect about Chi Omega or Mary Love Collins, I would comment.

[Senusret I]

So if you can call out his incorrectness when you see fit, why can't anyone else?

[33girl]

Originally Posted by NutBrnHair

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Y'all need to get a room.

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by oldu

it was the first widely publicized case

Co-sign Senusret's comment.

and the first in which supposedly dainty sorority women stood up for their rights

and accomplished it because of a savvy sorority leader who was a feminist long before the term became popular.

I think a young lady named Elizabeth Cady Stanton would take exception to that comment.

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Y'all need to get a room.

Yeah, I'm starting to wonder if oldu is Nut's sockpuppet or vice versa.

[aopirose]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Y'all need to get a room.

Bwahhahaha. 33girl said "Y'all".

[kddani]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Y'all need to get a room.

Wait, oldu is a guy, right?

Agree with whomever said he needs to cite his sources. It's not very scholarly to blatantly rip off someone else's work without giving credit to them. (No citations at all in the OP). Actually, it's considered plagiarism. Also against the TOS.

As has been pointed out in numerous threads, if oldu does not want his "research" criticized, then he shouldn't be posting it on a discussion board.