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Old 02-26-2008, 05:07 AM
KyleMcGuire1983 KyleMcGuire1983 is offline
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Greeks Only Parties

Is it just me or are parties with only Greeks allowed in much easier to manage?
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Old 02-26-2008, 02:05 PM
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In the south we tend to only party with our own fraternity and allow girls in.
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Old 02-26-2008, 02:12 PM
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In the south we tend to only party with our own fraternity and allow girls in.
I go to school in Ohio and it's the same here. The only guys allowed are brothers/pledges, but girls are allowed (unless a particular girl is banned for some reason).
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Old 02-26-2008, 02:29 PM
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You guys never have parties with a guest list including non greek men? Lucky...
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Old 02-26-2008, 02:41 PM
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You guys never have parties with a guest list including non greek men? Lucky...
Nope. If you're a girl and you know a brother REALLY well, you might be able to get your guy friend in, but that's not often.
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Old 02-26-2008, 03:00 PM
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You guys never have parties with a guest list including non greek men? Lucky...
Perhaps a guy who was being rushed outside of a normal rush. (i.e. say mid semester or maybe before the summer) And sometimes, an out of town buddy of one of the members - who happened to be visiting - might be on the guest list.

Basically, unless the party was an open rush event, then it would be for members and their invited guests.
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Old 02-26-2008, 03:03 PM
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The only time non-greek guys could go to a fraternity's party was if it was during rush. Ocassionally if a fraternity was on really good terms with another fraternity, then they might invite the other fraternity to join them in a theme party (SAE and Sigma Chi used to do this), but those were usually special occasions (like the time they hauled in a ton of sand, spread it around the SAE party room floor and held a luau in the middle of February).
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Old 02-26-2008, 03:17 PM
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The only time non-greek guys could go to a fraternity's party was if it was during rush. Occasionally if a fraternity was on really good terms with another fraternity, then they might invite the other fraternity to join them in a theme party (SAE and Sigma Chi used to do this), but those were usually special occasions (like the time they hauled in a ton of sand, spread it around the SAE party room floor and held a luau in the middle of February).
That too. But in this situation, the males in attendance are all Greek. So basically, outside of a rush situation, non Greek men were simply not invited. Unless they were visiting from out of town. And more often than not, staying with their friend (who is a member) at the house.
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Old 02-26-2008, 03:41 PM
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our chapter has alot of list parties and we tend to invite alot of non greeks. it could be because the campus has very few greeks compared to non greeks and we are good friends with people outside of the fraternity, but also its good to have the public on your side. good publicity if you will
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Old 02-26-2008, 06:09 PM
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Most the parties on our campus are open parties to everyone. I think there would be less problems if only greeks were allowed in. & I also think that it would encourage more people to go greek as well.

Exceptions:
List Parties
date parties
Mixers
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Old 02-26-2008, 06:21 PM
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Invited gueats are the best!

Some pople blow in and then when problems start, who get blamed?
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Old 02-26-2008, 11:18 PM
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Is it just me or are parties with only Greeks allowed in much easier to manage?
You are exactly right. Back in my day we had lists and security at the door and random people were not invited. Non-Greeks were not really invited either- but more because the party was for chapter members, so other male Greeks were few in number as well and had to be good friends with someone etc.

Non-Greek students are just as likely to get wasted and do stupid stuff as anyone else.

But the difference at a party hosted by a fraternity is that the members, or other Greeks, have a certain amount of respect (generally speaking) for the house and its contents because they live there or live in a similar home.

Non-Greeks have no such ownership in respecting the house they visit other than whatever personal manners they have- and so those who are not well mannered have every reason to get drunk and tear stuff up because what do they care?!

This is all very general of course- there are plenty of Greeks out there who have no respect for their houses and plenty of non-Greeks who do have respect for their hosts.

But on average I think my analysis is spot on.

To give a good example of this in another context- when I was in high school I worked at a luxury car dealership for a couple of summers that offered free loaner cars when people brought their cars in for service and also washed customer cars after they were serviced. Working both the service drive and helping in the car wash- I got a pretty good look at both loaner cars and customer cars all day long.

On average, the loaner cars got pretty well trashed compared to the condition customers kept their own cars in. Not always- but on average.

Same thing here. A lot of people in this world have little regard for things for which they are not directly responsible.

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Old 03-04-2008, 01:37 AM
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My fraternity has a policy. We have a 50/50 rule for informal parties. That is, 50 percent of the people present must be the invited guests of the other fifty percent present, and half the people present must be Kappa Sigs.

We make the exception for the one female Greek org on campus, who we generally let come in, because their a newer Greek organization and don't have the membership to hold major parties.

When it comes to dinners and formal parties, there is a guest list and the only way in is to be a ticket-holding, guest of a Brother, with the requirement that every brother only bring one guest. When I (and 49 other brothers) became founding fathers in a huge initiatory celebration, we allowed representatives from the Student's Union to attend, but they had to purchase a ticket and be approved. My best non-Greek friend came out with his girlfriend and I had to lean on some guys to let them attend, but they were approved, SU sponsored guests who each paid for their meal.

As from a RM perspective, Greeks are generally more responsible because they have a Chain of Command structure and a method of protection against excess damage. If I break a lamp, I don't grab my shoes and bail or move to another room and pretend I didn't do it. I break out my chequebook and write a nice slip of paper. Non-Greeks won't do that.

On the other hand, I was once invited to attend an MSS (Management Students Society) mixer and election party where I spilled red wine all over an MSS girl. I whipped out my business card and said "Call me monday morning, we'll settle up. I'm really sorry, and please enjoy the rest of the party.". I think in general, some people are more responsible than others, but objectively, Greeks have a better attitude.
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