America University Drug Raid

AlphaChiS2K · #1 02-22-2002, 12:48 PM

So this happened at my school last night... on my floor, they arrested my neighbors and the boys across the hall. It was well-known that they all were dealers, and I think one of them sold to an undercover cop. A couple of fraternity boys that I know were arrested- one was the ringleader, and the other was his pledge brother and roommate who turned himself in after his brother was arrested. They all face serious charges, and will probably serve time. There was a lot of illegal substances moving through their hands... the sad thing is that they're all under 21, and most them got mixed up in the wrong scene. Several are freshmen.

What do you think about the war on drugs? Is it winnable? What do you feel is appropriate punishment?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2002Feb22.html

Honeykiss1974 · #2 02-22-2002, 12:57 PM

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Originally posted by AlphaChiS2K
So this happened at my school last night... on my floor, they arrested my neighbors and the boys across the hall. It was well-known that they all were dealers, and I think one of them sold to an undercover cop. A couple of fraternity boys that I know were arrested- one was the ringleader, and the other was his pledge brother and roommate who turned himself in after his brother was arrested. They all face serious charges, and will probably serve time. There was a lot of illegal substances moving through their hands... the sad thing is that they're all under 21, and most them got mixed up in the wrong scene. Several are freshmen.

What do you think about the war on drugs? Is it winnable? What do you feel is appropriate punishment?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2002Feb22.html

Drugs...........hmmm well IMHO,

1. In order to stop the distribution of drugs, our time must be focused on the SUPPLIERS, and not the small time pushers. After all, planes and ships loads of drugs are brough into this country everyday by these types of people. I believe if you cut the supply source, you can really make a dent in the drug game.

2. As it stands right now, it is cheaper to purchase a nickel bag marijuana (for $5) or meth or herion than it is to buy a package or carton of cigarettes.(packages = $5 and up, carton = $20 and up). If I am drug user, which do you think I am going for to get the most bang for my buck?

3. We need to have more substance abuse treatment, instead of jails. I am a "proactive" person and our country really needs to treat addiction for what it is - A DISEASE! A week in detox just will not "cure" someone's addiction. Most drug users need a serious regime of theraphy.

I could go on and on about this, but I have to get back to work...........

XO_Princess · #3 02-22-2002, 01:01 PM

That's my alma mater...gosh, I'm so proud.

aggieAXO · #4 02-22-2002, 01:56 PM

I think that the war on drugs starts in the home. Maybe it sounds cheesy but parents can have such an impact on what a kid will do or want he/she won't do later in life. These days with both parents working or 1 parent households some guidance in these kids lives are missing. Now, that is not to say that if you have the Cleaver family setting you are not going to do drugs but maybe less likely. I had such strong support from my mother growing up and she instilled in me that drugs are a no no and to this day I have never done any illegal drugs. My mother was very involved in the 80's in the Just Say No campaign that RReagan started and that left an impression on me.

AlphaChiS2K · #5 02-22-2002, 04:46 PM

Update:

http://wxnet4.nbc4.com/news/1247947/detail.html

Peaches-n-Cream · #6 02-22-2002, 04:51 PM

This is so sad! They really screwed up their lives. I hope that they can afford good lawyers.

Optimist Prime · #7 02-22-2002, 05:02 PM

at least they didn't name the fraternity.
Man, I feel bad for that kid. He was probably just some kid that knew someone, and came back to the dorms messed up one night and then his friends from the dorm wanted to get wasted like that, and try new things cuz "college is the time of experimentation" HOw the hell can a kid who is younger than me be a king pin of a drug ring. That is not a drug ring, a drung ring are the people that wait for the boats to come in and pay other people to ship it out. 6 kids getting messed up is not a drug ring.

DeltaBetaBaby · #8 02-22-2002, 06:21 PM

I think the solution to the war on drugs is to legalize everything and tax the hell out of it.

AlphaChiS2K · #9 02-23-2002, 01:17 AM

It's very weird... I know these boys, esp. the two "kingpins" through my roommate. One is her best friend, and he was always in her room. I knew he smoked a lot, but I never had any idea he dealt like that. She also dated another at one point, and THAT is a sad case. His entire fraternity was trying to do an intervention with him- he was on so many different drugs I don't think anyone ever knew him sober. He stole her migraine meds at one point and would pass out in our room high on morphine. When his pledge brothers would wake him up, he'd be so strung out and incoherant... it's sad more than anything, that here are several people who will more than likely serve serious time (MPD is looking to make a big example out of this; otherwise they wouldn't have invested 2 months in a sting operation) and whose lives are ruined. I can't imagine paying to put my child through school and receiving this call... I can't fathom what their parents are going through right now. All of these boys come from stable, middle-class homes, never hurt for $$$, and I know a couple of their parents- wonderful people. Of course, you can never know the whole story, but it's very disheartening and deflating.

XO_Princess... PM me.... when did you graduate?? I think we had this convo once before, but I forget

AlphaChiS2K · #10 02-23-2002, 01:18 AM

and actually, there were 4 fraternities involved... brothers of 1 and new members of 3.... the campus Greek advisor must be flipping out right now

Honeykiss1974 · #11 02-23-2002, 05:10 PM

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Originally posted by AlphaChiS2K
I can't fathom what their parents are going through right now. All of these boys come from stable, middle-class homes, never hurt for $$$, and I know a couple of their parents- wonderful people.

Drugs and their users are not limited to urban, ghetto, poor areas. Middle class and upper middle class folks who seem to "have it all together" or not hurting for dollars" abuse drugs (illegal and perscription ) just as much and more than someone from a regular working-class home. Addiction DOES NOT CARE where your from, who your are, or how big your bank account is. Frankly, the reason why drugs have continued to be a problem that plagues our nation, is because as long as drugs were isolated to poor ghetto communities, there was no need to be alarmed. But as soon as drugs began to ravage the "safe-haven" of the middle class suburds, now the collective WE have a problem and something should be done. The is no one clear cut solution to a problem that was left to fester for years. Some of the solutions I stated in my earlier post is a start, but I believe EVERYONE needs to committed to getting rid of drugs regardless of whether its at your back door or not. Continue to do nothing and it will be.

AlphaChiS2K · #12 02-23-2002, 05:57 PM

I didn't mean to come across as only thinking drugs came from poor, urban areas.... that was not my intention. I was thinking of it as more from the parents' point of view- how terrible you'd feel if you tried your hardest to give your child everything, provide them with the best of everything, send them to a great school for an education, and then find out something like this.. I can't imagine how devastated you'd feel.