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Old 01-16-2008, 04:36 PM
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So did anyone catch what SP or KSW or any of his other acronyms stand for?
I think I read in comments on that page that an "SP" is a "Suppressive Person" (so a non-believer, I guess) and "KSW" is either a book or doctrine or something "Keep Scientology Working".
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Old 01-16-2008, 04:40 PM
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So did anyone catch what SP or KSW or any of his other acronyms stand for?
Katie Sure is Whacked?
Shutup Please?

Well, that's what they should mean.
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Old 01-16-2008, 04:43 PM
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Old 01-16-2008, 05:23 PM
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I think I read in comments on that page that an "SP" is a "Suppressive Person" (so a non-believer, I guess) and "KSW" is either a book or doctrine or something "Keep Scientology Working".
Sort of. Scientology defines a "Suppressive Person" as "a person who possesses a distinct set of characteristics and mental attitudes that cause him to suppress other people in his vicinity. This is the person whose behavior is calculated to be disastrous." These people work against the betterment of people or groups. LRH said they make up about 2.5% of the population. Here's the Wiki article on SPs.

Keep Scientology Working is a LRH policy. To not Keep Scientology Working is a Suppressive Act, making one an SP.

I tell you, you just couldn't make this stuff up.

Oh. Wait. L Ron did. Silly me.
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Old 01-16-2008, 05:35 PM
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Sort of. Scientology defines a "Suppressive Person" as "a person who possesses a distinct set of characteristics and mental attitudes that cause him to suppress other people in his vicinity. This is the person whose behavior is calculated to be disastrous." These people work against the betterment of people or groups. LRH said they make up about 2.5% of the population. Here's the Wiki article on SPs.

Keep Scientology Working is a LRH policy. To not Keep Scientology Working is a Suppressive Act, making one an SP.
I honestly had no idea scientology was so weird. I have so much less respect for Travolta and Holmes now. I can't say I have less respect for Cruise... since after the Brooke Shields fiasco I'm not sure he started out with enough to measure a significant decrease.
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Old 01-16-2008, 05:35 PM
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So did anyone catch what SP or KSW or any of his other acronyms stand for?
SP - Suppressive Person. It's a term often associated with enemies & critics of the church.

KSW - Keep Scientology Working. A policy letter written by L. Ron Hubbard that all Scientologists must study consistently. It has something to do with the ethics protocol Scientologists must follow.


Tom also mentions Criminon which is a program using Hubbard's techniques which are used to rehabilitate criminals.
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I honestly had no idea scientology was so weird. I have so much less respect for Travolta and Holmes now. I can't say I have less respect for Cruise... since after the Brooke Shields fiasco I'm not sure he started out with enough to measure a significant decrease.

Did you ever read about the Jenna & Bodhi Elfman incident?

It pains me to think that celebrities like Will Smith and Jennifer Lopez might have been brainwashed by Tom Cruise and those freaks.


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Old 01-16-2008, 05:57 PM
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I can't stand Jenna Elfman. She is the queen of monotone.

Will Smith is a pretty canny cat - too canny, I would think, to buy this shite. I wouldn't be surprised if he's just faking it to get ahead and laughing hard in the process.
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Old 01-16-2008, 06:09 PM
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I hadn't heard about the Elfman incident.

My favorite part of the article is this:

Roecker says Jenna repeatedly said "What crimes have you committed?" and began screaming at Roecker, "Have you raped a baby?" as motorists on Los Feliz Boulevard drove by in snarled traffic.

How do these people NOT understand that they sound like complete lunatics? At some point wouldn't you sort of step outside yourself and observe something like: "Gosh. I sound like an alien from another planet."
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Old 01-16-2008, 06:19 PM
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Tom also mentions Criminon which is a program using Hubbard's techniques which are used to rehabilitate criminals.
I think that's Crimanon. And there's also Narcanon.
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Old 01-16-2008, 07:56 PM
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I honestly had no idea scientology was so weird. I have so much less respect for Travolta and Holmes now. I can't say I have less respect for Cruise... since after the Brooke Shields fiasco I'm not sure he started out with enough to measure a significant decrease.
Watch the South Park episode. When they say "this is what Scientologists really believe" they're NOT LYING.

Crazy shit.
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Old 01-16-2008, 09:40 PM
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ksw is "keep scientlogy working" (i think) it was posted from the msg board under the video. OK that was some creepy footage of him and this insane cult.
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Old 01-17-2008, 12:54 AM
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Ok so I got through 5.5 minutes before I almost barfed out of boredom......

In case anyone didn't know their "church/flagship" is in Clearwater, FL, less than a half an hour where I grew up. Basically the church owns all of downtown, and there are crazy people walking around in white shirts with ties....it is very freaky, and I say this having been exposed to it at a young age...
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Old 01-17-2008, 01:39 AM
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Was this an interview or a pitch? It looked like an interview and sounded odd because we're not hearing the questions. LOL!
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Old 01-17-2008, 02:19 AM
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Scientology videos. The gift that keeps on giving.


CSI: Church of Scientology International letter to remove video from website.
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